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"Yes We Can . . . Ban Guns"--Obama Announces Gun Ban Agenda Before The Final Vote Count Is In
National Rifle Association ^ | November 07, 2008 | NRA-ILA

Posted on 11/09/2008 2:44:27 AM PST by Perseverando

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To: Ancesthntr

One more thing - Liberal Democrats might be a little looney, but they ain’t that looney. Confiscation would possibly the thing that ends the Democratic party.


161 posted on 11/09/2008 3:36:16 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: Perseverando
http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy/ "The page you requested isn't available right now." (Take your Soma and don't worry. Change is good. We come in peace.)
162 posted on 11/09/2008 3:39:25 PM PST by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: Pelagius of Asturias

“Confiscation would possibly the thing that ends the Democratic party.”

Who would do all this confiscating?

The police can’t keep illegals from drunk driving because they can’t jail them fast enough.


163 posted on 11/09/2008 3:39:39 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Perseverando

Ok, so I have an AR-15. What else should I buy now that I won’t likely be able to buy soon? I really want a suppressor. Anyone think they’ll make changes to the 1934 NFA?


164 posted on 11/09/2008 3:44:13 PM PST by Nick The Freeper
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To: Nick The Freeper

They did in 1986 by prohibiting sales of new fully automatic weapons to civilians. A used one can still be purchased through the requirements of the 1934 NFA.


165 posted on 11/09/2008 3:53:50 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

I don’t know who would do the confiscating, but an enacted law would imperil every Democrat who managed to win an election in a conserevative district and the Dems would lose the White House shortly there after. Without lying and hoodwinking most gun owners, the Dems cannot be successful.


166 posted on 11/09/2008 3:57:56 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: jrd

Us Southerners won’t take too kindly to his occupational army that he will call the “civilian defense force”. The occupational army is part of the original reason for the KKK.


167 posted on 11/09/2008 4:06:27 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: Pelagius of Asturias

I think, since 1994, the Democrats have infiltrated the GOP, especially with the behavior of some RNC people of late. I know as a fact that many local Republican central committees have been taken over by liberals.

A friend of mine suggested a massive movement of Republicans registering to vote as Democrats and completely dissolving the Republican party. (A colossal “Operation Chaos.”)

This would confound things nicely (and scare the $hit out of the fence sitters) and it would also FORCE these a-hole politicians to talk about ISSUES.


168 posted on 11/09/2008 4:11:48 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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Let me try to stop this confiscation nonsense. It will not happen. The 2008 election was not a rejection of conservative values; it was a rejection of Republican values, whatever they are. I don’t think the current Repub leadership has any values, that’s why more Jindals and Palins are needed. Too many liberal ballot initiatives were defeated for me to think that conservatism was rejected.

The only reason the first assault weapons ban passed was because it had an expiration date. Some Dems in conservative districts lost re-election because of their votes. Clinton voiced his regrets over it. A new law will mean more Dems won’t get re-elected. For example, Tennessee has three or four newly elected Democrat Representatives in conservative districts, they would lose in 2012 if they vote for a new, Stalinesque gun control law. That is political reality as I see it. The new 2007 law went nowhere and the Dems had control of the House for two years.


169 posted on 11/09/2008 4:21:17 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: Pelagius of Asturias

That’s true. As much as I’d like one I’m not looking to buy a machine gun because of the cost. A suppressor is what I really want. I need to convince my wife it’s a necessity.


170 posted on 11/09/2008 4:21:39 PM PST by Nick The Freeper
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To: Nick The Freeper

Do you want a muzzle brake or a flash suppressor? I added this to my Mini 14. It can be removed.

http://tinyurl.com/6cfvkv

Gunshow vendors have lots of them.

It reduces recoil and muzzle climb. It is not a flash suppressor because I have fired it at night. It just makes a bigger flame. In most cases a flash suppressor is really a muzzle brake.


171 posted on 11/09/2008 4:37:11 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: Pelagius of Asturias
I have heard of retroactive tax cuts, but I don’t remember a retraoactive tax increase.

Sorry, that bridge has already been crossed, under Clinton. They passed an Estate Tax increase retroactive to 1/1/93. It went to the USSC, which upheld it. How, I cannot fathom to this day (and I'm a lawyer).

172 posted on 11/09/2008 4:45:01 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: TLI
And that just might get a few million American Citizens vaporized.

I am quite sure that the American people will be forgiving of that - especially the families of those who perished.

Not.

173 posted on 11/09/2008 4:50:51 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: hoosierham
I don't trust Baron Hill to buck Pelosi and the Party !

Rahm Emanuel was brought in for a reason. He's best known for going nuclear on Dems who stray from the Party line.

They're planning on a lot of bills being passed on straight party-line votes - count on it. That scares the crap out of me.

174 posted on 11/09/2008 4:54:19 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
This nation is a pro-gun nation and that is not going to change in the near future.

I hope that you're right - but most of the English population turned theirs in voluntarily shortly after WW2 when some nut killed a bunch of people.

However, I don't see that happening here - it would've already. I'm worried about a Reichstag Fire scenario. A city goes up in a mushroom cloud, and Congress grants the Executive enormous powers to root out "terrorists" (defined as anyone the AG designates). THAT is when you have to watch out.

175 posted on 11/09/2008 4:58:09 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: Smokin' Joe

They do that raiding stuff piecemeal, and pretty soon they’re going to find some coming back the other way. I’m not advocating anything, mind you, just making an educated guess.


176 posted on 11/09/2008 5:00:09 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: Pelagius of Asturias
Sound. I've been looking at the SWR HEMS2 for my 45.
177 posted on 11/09/2008 5:25:00 PM PST by Nick The Freeper
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To: El Laton Caliente

Warning... Obama’s definition of “Assault Weapons” is much broader than that of the 1994 ban. It includes any semiautomatic rifle or handgun that can accept magazines and/or hold more than 5 rounds internally, any pump action shotgun, any rifle capable of firing rounds more than 300 yards, and any handgun under 8 inches.


178 posted on 11/09/2008 5:33:12 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Nick The Freeper

Hey, I misunderstood what you were looking for. You want a sound suppressor, aka silencer. Oops, gee, golly, I feel kinda dumb.


179 posted on 11/09/2008 6:40:30 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: Thunder90

Those rifles listed in the 2007 bill were also listed in the bill to extend the original ban introduced back in 03 or 04. In this case it is Pelosi and Dingy Harry who are the culprits. Also I think that old extension bill was introduced before Obama was Senator. I’m sure Mr 0 approves, but he probably had nothing to do with the content. I do remember that the old extension (renewal) bill included M-1 Carbine and Mini-14.

Remember this bill will have to be re-introduced as a new bill and go through comittees - they have to start all over.

This is an excellent site for searching for bills.

http://thomas.loc.gov/

It lists sponsors, status, and who introduced it.


180 posted on 11/09/2008 6:54:59 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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