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PUMA analysis of the voting results
The Confluence - PUMA site | 11/7/2008 | madamab

Posted on 11/06/2008 9:28:18 PM PST by beagleone

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To: beagleone
Ah, finally at last someone else besides me (the author above) comments on Carl Rove, the voice-of-doom commentator on Fox.

For weeks I referred to him as Digger O'Dell, the Friendly Undertaker, on the old Fred Allen radio show.

His boring, flat commentaries stirred no excitement, no hope, no inspiration for the Republicans. Everyone seems to like this little Pilsbury Dough-boy.....but I remember he stood at the right hand of Bush for two terms advising him. His advice helped and probably caused disaster after disaster in the Bush years, including the virtual breakdown of the GOP.....not to mention the policy of never responding to attacks, thus emboldening the enemy and demoralizing the base.

I hope they lose Rove now the election is over. Years more of him is unbearable to think of. He has nothing to offer, just more political hackery dressed up in a Brooks Bros. suit.

Leni

61 posted on 11/07/2008 5:03:00 AM PST by MinuteGal (Take Back the Republic if You Dare!)
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To: Bob J; beagleone

A lot of people were swayed at the last minute by things like no more pre-existing conditions/unearned tax rebate checks/environmental issues. Also, I am told, a lot of last minute lobbying and arm twisting of anyone who wasn’t onboard the zerO train. They were told this is the most important election ever and you can save that protest vote for some other time.

At my precinct, the leftists were out election day acting like it was a party and recording the event for posterity inside the voting room at our township hall with not a peep from anyone at all.

PUMAs weren’t enough, it was a coup.


62 posted on 11/07/2008 7:21:59 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: beagleone
We lost because McCain did not make a convincing argument to the voters about why voting for McCain would be good for America, while voting for Obama would be a disaster.

Reagan won not just because he was conservative, but because he was effective in explaining why YOU should be a conservative too. McCain was just Democrat-lite. Why vote for Dem-lite when you could have the real thing?

63 posted on 11/07/2008 7:28:30 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: beagleone

The authors conclusions have no real valuable numbers to back them up.

Unless you have both registered voter data and voting data, together and just as importantly state by state, plus some VERY good exit polling, you cannot conclude any degree of who stayed home, or jumped parties.

The mere number of votes received cannot define many things that many writers are extrapolating from them.


64 posted on 11/07/2008 7:40:37 AM PST by Wuli
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To: beagleone

“Brit Hume was saying that 13 percent of former Hillary Clinton supporters in Texas voted McCain.”

Baloney. Hume said 87% of Hill suporters voted for Obama, that doesn’t mean the rest voted for Mac. As noted above, it has been stated by PUMAS leaders that many of their votes were either for a 3rd party, written in Hills or left blank.

Quit making facts up.


65 posted on 11/07/2008 7:59:03 AM PST by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: beagleone

“They all liked Sarah Palin, some more enthusaistically than others. But they all liked Palin.”

What did the like about her, her stance on abortion?


66 posted on 11/07/2008 8:00:10 AM PST by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: TheWriterTX
"Just wish I had a chance to speak with him before he voted."

You wish you would've "had a chance" to speak with your Dad about the election? This election period was eternally long. Whatever prevented you from having a chance to speak to your terminally ill Dad about the election in all that time?

Sounds to me like you'd better lay the blame where it belongs: the media and your lack of relating to your Dad.

Elections come and go, but your Dad is your Dad forever, even after he's gone. Better use this time to build a better relationship with him and forget about his vote for Obama. Your Dad's vote didn't make him president. But your anger at your Dad could affect you for a very long time.

67 posted on 11/07/2008 10:03:58 AM PST by TruthSetsUFree
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To: TruthSetsUFree
Dear Truth, I know you meant well in your response, but your looking at a post and presuming a lot.

Without going into all the gory details, there were other, more immediate issues on the table in our conversations - such as whether a family member had lived through another night, how the latest surgery went, options for long term care, legal issues. For the better part of this year, almost all of our conversations have centered around someone's health - mine, his, Mom's, Grandma's, etc.

So, yeah, Obama and his ilk took a back seat. Moreover, I never expected him to switch to a Democrat, particularly such a blatently liberal one. He's always been a Conservative; his vote for McCain, even a "hold your nose" vote for McCain, should have been a non-issue.

Hence, the surprise.

Fear not, though! He's refused to "claim me," too, but we usually get over it in about two weeks. He's a good and loving man.

68 posted on 11/07/2008 2:52:26 PM PST by TheWriterTX (Proud Retrosexual Wife of 15 Years)
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To: TheWriterTX

My apologies. It’s my policy not to judge another, knowing I cannot possibly know all the factors involved in any situation causing them them to choose to do what they did. But dont you think you could give your Dad the same understanding you just requested of me?

I wish your family all the best. It sounds like you have a lot of heavy stuff going on. Just don’t forget that love is the most important part of being a family, and you can never give too much. :) That’s something you’ll never regret.


69 posted on 11/07/2008 3:25:01 PM PST by TruthSetsUFree
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To: TruthSetsUFree
Like I said, we usually get over it pretty quickly.

He and I are very much alike; quick to anger, quick to forgive.

Next time we talk, it will be all forgotten.

Peace, FRiend, have a great weekend!

70 posted on 11/07/2008 4:08:30 PM PST by TheWriterTX (Proud Retrosexual Wife of 15 Years)
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To: Carley
NC is filled with people from NY and NJ who moved there to get away from higher taxes. They brought their liberal mindset with them.

and now they will vote to increase out taxes! Yankees go home! PS>Most of my friends are Yankees and so is my husband, but they are conservatives!

71 posted on 11/07/2008 4:23:46 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: TheWriterTX

Ah, that’s really good to hear. :) And again, I’m sorry I judged you.

You have a great weekend too!


72 posted on 11/07/2008 8:36:47 PM PST by TruthSetsUFree
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To: beagleone

I think some Republicans were angry at the party, and wanted to teach the leaders a lesson. I guess they did, though it remains to be seen what that is.


73 posted on 11/07/2008 10:18:01 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Bob J

They don’t care about her stance on abortion. They are tired of the Democrat Party using abortion as a weapon against women to scare them into voting for their party.


74 posted on 11/08/2008 3:00:18 AM PST by beagleone (Sarah Palin for President in 2012. Lets start fundraising ASAP.)
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To: Bob J

You quit making facts up. Show me the hard numbers of voters who voted for the mystery third party candidate or the blank at the top in the returns. They aren’t there.


75 posted on 11/08/2008 3:01:50 AM PST by beagleone (Sarah Palin for President in 2012. Lets start fundraising ASAP.)
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To: Wuli

I agree with you. The only thing we know for sure is that more votes went to Obama than McCain. Notice I didn’t say “more people”.


76 posted on 11/08/2008 3:30:27 AM PST by beagleone (Sarah Palin for President in 2012. Lets start fundraising ASAP.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Well, yeah, I agree with you.

To his credit, McCain did start getting back voters with the "keep your wealth vs. spread the wealth" argument but by then he was too deep in the hole to climb out.
77 posted on 11/08/2008 3:33:58 AM PST by beagleone (Sarah Palin for President in 2012. Lets start fundraising ASAP.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Well, yeah, I agree with you.

To his credit, McCain did start getting back voters with the "keep your wealth vs. spread the wealth" argument but by then he was too deep in the hole to climb out.
78 posted on 11/08/2008 3:34:02 AM PST by beagleone (Sarah Palin for President in 2012. Lets start fundraising ASAP.)
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