MIT scientists baffled by global warming theory, contradicts scientific data

TGDaily ^ | Thursday, October 30, 2008 09:55 | By Rick C. Hodgin

[dearolddad]

Of course at one point in time everyone knew that the world was flat.......................

Are you trying to tell me it's not?

[Reeses]

killing off suburbia

The city folks might spend less time envying those with big houses and big cars and more time on those that envy them.

[repubpub]

Whoa, whoa, whoa back up. I need to stock my bomb cellar with all this doom and gloom. (sarc, really)

[mirkwood]

[George Smiley]

I heard that earthworm farts were much more concentrated than cow farts.

[Matchett-PI]

“Digg It!” - xcamel

I took your advice, and here are some of the comments I found:

http://digg.com/environment/Science_study_by_MIT_contradicts_global_warming_theory

Comments:

The author is censoring comments on that page which point out that he does not cite the source of his quotes: a press release which contradicts the central theme of his article.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-10/mio ...
Also, please see the following FACTUAL article on the subject from an AP science reporter:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ibwC_yqdCtXd24m ...

I’m sad to see that TGDaily has gone the way of Micheal Asher’s misinformation stream at DailyTech. It’s just a pathetic effort to get web traffic, because every conservative blog will link to a story like this. Sadly, it works, and these sites reap in ad money for misrepresenting the results of scientific papers.

I know that you deniers think you’re onto something here but you’re not. That TG Daily concoction is downright misleading and is a prime example of bad journalism. Read the statement directly from MIT. Nowhere does it say that these methane increases contradict global warming.
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/methane-tt1029. ...

or better yet the actual article:
M. Rigby, R. Prinn, P. Fraser, P. Simmonds, R. Langenfelds, J. Huang1, D. Cunnold, P. Steele, P. Krummel, R.Weiss, S. O’Doherty, P. Salameh, H. Wang, C. Harth, J. Mühle, L. Porter. Renewed growth of atmospheric methane. Geophysical Review Letters, 28 pages 2008

Whoa, yeah after reading the actual MIT press release it does seem like TG Daily has misrepresented the findings of this research, or at least the researchers’ understanding of the meaning of the findings:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/methane-tt1029. ...

Before anyone posts anything, please check out the links to the actual study already posted.

Its already been pointed out that this article massively misrepresented the study they are basing this on, and took one line out of context to make it seem like the entire article from MIT was somehow refuting global warming as man-made.

It doesnt.

Here are some more balanced articles referencing the same study but reporting the actual gist of the conclusions. Links found by Jenga previously.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-10/mio ...
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ibwC_yqdCtXd24m ...

[Future Snake Eater]

In just the past 3-5 years it’s gone from global warming to global cooling to global warming several times! Finally the environmentalist wackos saw what was really happening and just started calling it “climate change.” Now, they can’t possibly be wrong anymore!

[BushMeister]

Methane is produced by one type of organism on Earth: Archaea. They are bacteria-like microorganisms that live in the guts of bovines, humans, etc. and, crucially, in rice plants. The 150% increase in atmospheric methane levels in the last 250 years coincides with the booming population of Asia, and the massive increase in rice farming.

Methane is about 20X more efficient at trapping heat in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide is. Anyone who ignores the former and focuses on the latter is not seriously investigating human-related effect on climate.

[Wonder Warthog]

"It seems there is a human gene that is dedicated to fixating on some condition, and convincing yourself that the end is near. Thirty years ago ‘global cooling’ was going to kill us all. Around that same time overpopulation was going to kill us all. About the same time global food shortages were going to kill us all.

Not a "human gene" but a "liberal meme". All of these were (and are) liberal/socialist talking points.

[maica]

We may simply be going through another natural cycle of warmer and colder times - one that’s been observed through a scientific analysis of the Earth to be naturally occuring for hundreds of thousands of years.

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Wow! Are these scientists actually saying that the earth has cycles? What a concept!! The same earth that has been traveling around the same sun for millions of years? Well, I never! The same earth that has the same number of molecules and atoms at the end of each year as at the beginning of each year, because I am not aware of the earth’s ability to capture new atoms of anything from space? Our earth is the true definition of recycling!

[xcamel]

re: negative diggs

Here’s the trick - positive clicks on the buryied articles (- totals) - don’t let the AGW’s run the board...

[polymuser]

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Sediments make gas. Do scientists know how much the ocean floors 'burp'?

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[R W Reactionairy]

I am an agnostic when it comes to global warming, but the source the global warming folks would point to for a spike in methane are found in nature and would be released at higher and higher rates as (if) global temperatures rise.

The two prime examples are the peat locked up in permafrost and seabed hydrates. A release from peat might follow a North South trend. A release from seabed hydrates probably would not.

[Moonman62]

They’ll be even more shocked if they ever study the most powerful greenhouse gas, water vapor.

[ChildOfThe60s]

It’s those doggone pesky facts again, how annoying.

[xcamel]

Release from hydrates under the north polar ice cap do to very large quantities of hydrate being there, and a substantial increase in the northernmost mid atlantic rift volcanic activity heating it up enough to “burp”.

Huge nearly pure methane bubbles have been found under the icepack near greenland...

[xcamel]

You know damned well that's never-gonna-happen....

[slowhandluke]

I am not aware of the earth’s ability to capture new atoms of anything from space?

You might want to use a different argument. There is an ability to capture stuff from space. It's call gravity. The moon has a nice record of all that it captured from space, they are called 'craters'. And we have pictures of the pieces of a comet (Levi-Shoemaker) being captured by Jupiter.

And Anthropogenic Global Warming is BS, just so you know where I stand.

[GBA]

Theory’s busted? Algore will fix that for them. Afterall, GW is accepted as fact beyond dispute.

[Gilbo_3]

It’s a form of mental illness

Nah, just a 'catastrophe de juoir' for the masses to surrender power...

everything is a calculated move by the commie bastards on the great chess board of life...

I didnt graduate MIT, but i could tell it was all bunk from the gitgo...1/2 degree global temp over what 50-60 yrs ???

the tech in thermometers has changed how many times in that period ???

when watching local weather to plan my day, i always check the 'record highs and lows'...most are from the 1880s-1930s still yet...