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John R. Lott Jr.: Taking aim at Obama's stance on gun control
Philly.com ^ | Oct. 14, 2008 | John R. Lott Jr.

Posted on 10/14/2008 10:10:07 AM PDT by neverdem

The candidate says he supports the right to bear arms. The record says otherwise.

Barack Obama claims he is a friend of gun owners. He certainly has convinced the media. On Thursday, the Los Angeles Times said the NRA's opposition to Obama seemed strange because "Obama does not oppose gun rights. He has made a point of pounding this home to rural audiences, telling them he has no intention of taking their guns away: not their shotguns, not their handguns, not anything."

From the Boston Globe to FactCheck.org, the media and their watchdogs have uncritically recited Obama's statement that he believes there is an individual right to own guns. How does Brooks Jackson, FactCheck.org's director, explain the NRA's opposition to Obama? He says: "They are lying. . . . They are just making this up."

Yet, while the media and their checkers take Obama's current statements about his beliefs at face value, the NRA doesn't. So who is right?

In Pennsylvania, the answer could alter the election outcome. With about one million of the country's 12.5 million hunters, Pennsylvanians spend more time hunting than the residents of any other state. Pennsylvania also has more concealed-handgun permit holders than any other state, about 600,000.

In June, when the Supreme Court struck down the gun ban in Washington, D.C., Obama claimed that the decision merely confirmed his own view. He told Fox News that he had "said consistently that I believe that the Second Amendment is an individual right, and that was the essential decision that the Supreme Court came down on."

But that doesn't square with statements Obama has made in the past. Just last November, Obama's campaign told the Chicago Tribune, "Obama believes the D.C. handgun law is constitutional." After Obama's later statement supporting the Supreme Court decision, the campaign disowned the Tribune quote as a staffer's "inartful attempt" to characterize his position.

Obama also blamed a 1996 statement supporting a handgun ban on a staffer's mistake. But Politico discovered a copy of the candidate's statement with Obama's own handwritten comments on it.

Obama personally voiced support for the D.C. ban at other times. In February, Leon Harris, a news anchor for the ABC affiliate in Washington, said to Obama: "One other issue that's of great importance here in the district as well is gun control . . . but you support the D.C. handgun ban." Obama's simple response: "Right." When Harris added "and you've said that it's constitutional," Obama again said "right," and he is clearly seen on tape nodding his head in agreement.

In fact, Obama has a long history of supporting city gun bans. The Associated Press described his vote on a gun-control bill in 2004: "He also opposed letting people use a self-defense argument if charged with violating local handgun bans by using weapons in their homes. The bill was a reaction to a Chicago-area man who, after shooting an intruder, was charged with a handgun violation."

No major-party presidential nominee has ever had as strong and consistent an anti-gun record as Obama. Here is a politician who supported a ban on handguns in 1996, backed a ban on the sale of all semiautomatic guns in 1998 (which would encompass most guns sold in the country), and advocated banning gun sales within five miles of a school or park in 2004 (a virtual ban on all gun stores). He also served on the board of the Joyce Foundation, the largest private funder of anti-gun research in the country.

This evidence should be sufficient, but I have yet another reason to be skeptical. I knew Obama during the mid-1990s, when we were both at the University of Chicago Law School. Indeed, when I introduced myself to him, he said, "Oh, you are the gun guy."

I responded, "Yes, I guess so." His response, as I recall it, was, "I don't believe that people should be able to own guns."

When I said it might be fun sometime to talk about the question and his support of Chicago's lawsuit against gunmakers, he simply grimaced and turned away, ending the conversation.

Obama obviously thinks the gun issue is important. He and his surrogates constantly repeat the claim that he has always supported an individual right to own guns. But the media should stop uncritically reporting the claim without checking his past statements.

E-mail John Lott at jlott@umd.edu.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; barackobama; democrats; elections; gunvote; johnlott; johnrlottjr; nobama08; obama; yobama
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John R. Lott Jr. is a senior research scientist at the University of Maryland and the author of More Guns, Less Crime and The Bias Against Guns.
1 posted on 10/14/2008 10:10:08 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

A serious gun violence expert who is a diehard supporter of the position that more guns decrease the level of crime. His viewpoint should be taken very seriously. Coincidentally, I was just online ordering bulk ammo for my sidearm.

Colonel, USAFR


2 posted on 10/14/2008 10:14:11 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: neverdem

With Obama as Potus, Pelosi as speaker, and Dingy Harry as Senate Majority leader you can count on a national gun ban like Australia, UK, etc..


3 posted on 10/14/2008 10:16:14 AM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: neverdem

In the coming Obama administration you can bet your life that an any and every leftist form of “reasonable regulation” will be brought forward and approved. You can also bet the farm that Obama will appoint and the senate confirm only leftist judges who believe the Constitution is no more than a framework for upholding any and every fad and whim that a leftist government wants imposed. Such judges may not overturn the Second Amendment but they will render it moot by finding any and every restriction short of outright confiscation is “constitutional” (and they may not be all that much against confiscation).


4 posted on 10/14/2008 10:21:09 AM PDT by scory
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To: Mogollon
My thoughts exactly. This is one of the primary reasons that I believe the polls are cooked. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ohio and Michigan(supposedly going big for obozo now) are pretty much gun friendly states. If The One takes any of these states with his record on gun control, I can't see it being by the margin he's being credited with now.
5 posted on 10/14/2008 10:22:27 AM PDT by skimbell (Life, Liberty and the pursuit of all who threaten either.)
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To: neverdem

I hope the NRA targets PA and some of these other battleground states hard. McCain is not saying anything about this as far as I can tell and it’s a winning issue.


6 posted on 10/14/2008 10:24:46 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: Mogollon
Molon labe (sp)

“Come and get them”....

7 posted on 10/14/2008 10:30:06 AM PDT by Tahoe3002 (USMC 1972-1981)
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To: Mogollon
....a national gun ban like Australia, UK, etc...

But for the ex post facto clause in the Constitution. A clearly un-Constitutional move like that would be an invitation to Commment removed by internal moderator.

8 posted on 10/14/2008 10:30:33 AM PDT by gundog (I'm a bitter gun owner, and I vote.)
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To: neverdem
I wonder why the article didn't mention the fact that the NEW RAT platform, designed and controlled by Obummer, still lays out support for the AWB ?

The RATS were punished without mercy at the polls over that and all but the barking moonbats want nothing to do with that issue again.

9 posted on 10/14/2008 10:36:23 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: neverdem

As I said in another post last week, BUY AMMO NOW.

While they are plotting to take away your guns, they will tax ammo so high that average citizens will not be able to offord it and that renders a weapon useless.

While I’m only 40, I think I just might understand how some felt in Europe in the 1930’s if you know what I mean.

God save us!!!


10 posted on 10/14/2008 10:50:32 AM PDT by Jazz1968
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To: jagusafr
"Coincidentally, I was just online ordering bulk ammo for my sidearm."

If you would be so kind, might I trouble you for that site from which your purchased your bulk ammunition?

Thank you in advance, kinds sir. Methinks it the prudent choice to prepare oneself for the coming storm...

11 posted on 10/14/2008 10:55:07 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Democrats: Seeking an easy life at someone else's expense for 150 years")
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To: Beagle8U
I wonder why the article didn't mention the fact that the NEW RAT platform, designed and controlled by Obummer, still lays out support for the AWB ?

Including the subtitle, there are 723 words in the article. Your typical OpEd column is about 750 words, give or take some words. You could devote an entire column on the utter nonsense involved with "assault weapons ban," also known as AWB.

The RATS were punished without mercy at the polls over that and all but the barking moonbats want nothing to do with that issue again.

The barking moonbats are basically in control. So, I'm still hopeful that despite McCain's feeble efforts the RKBA WILL SAVE THE DAY.

12 posted on 10/14/2008 11:14:32 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

Online ammo retailers with whom I have had excellent dealings:

http://www.georgia-arms.com/

http://www.natchezss.com/

http://www.midwayusa.com/

http://www.outdoormarksman.com/


13 posted on 10/14/2008 11:14:54 AM PDT by Rinnwald (On our side? Six hundred million screaming Chinamen)
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To: jagusafr

Where are you buying?


14 posted on 10/14/2008 11:21:12 AM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: skimbell
And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

-Barack Hussein Obama

15 posted on 10/14/2008 11:23:45 AM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Osage Orange

MidwayUSA this time. Pretty good deal on the 165 grain Remington (I think), case of 250.

Colonel, USAFR


16 posted on 10/14/2008 1:26:27 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

MidwayUSA is where I went this time. I think I settled on the Remington 165 grain .40 cal, case of 250. And you’re right - better safe than cursing at empty mags.

Colonel, USAFR


17 posted on 10/14/2008 1:27:55 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: jagusafr

Thanks-


18 posted on 10/14/2008 1:28:29 PM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: bereanway
I hope the NRA targets PA

And I hope you're a member of the NRA.

19 posted on 10/14/2008 2:57:09 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: neverdem

Factcheck.org is run by leftists. Not that it matters. The McCain campaign decided to suck up to the communist biddies at the League of Women Voters.


20 posted on 10/14/2008 3:29:11 PM PDT by rmlew (NYARLATHOTEP / BIDEN'08 . If you don't believe me check out the first's wikipedia page.)
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