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Require supermajority to raise taxes at Federal level? (vanity)
September 16, 2008 | me

Posted on 09/16/2008 7:31:24 PM PDT by reaganaut1

In California, income or sales taxes have not been raised this year to close the budget deficit because Republican opposition prevented such measures from gaining the needed 2/3 majority. This should be a reminder of the need for such a supermajority requirement at the Federal level, the same as needed to ratify treaties.

The Republican party platform http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/GovernmentReform.htm#2 says

"Because the problem is too much spending, not too few taxes, we support a supermajority requirement in both the House and Senate to guard against tax hikes."

(Of course, when we had a Republican president and Congress, spending was unrestrained.)

I have not seen McCain or other Republicans advocate this. There may be little public clamor for tax cuts now, but that does not mean that people want tax increases.

A constitutional amendment requiring a supermajority to raise taxes has little hope of passing in the near term, but having the debate would highlight the differences between Republicans and Democrats. Democrats think that 51% of the people have the moral and legal right to confiscate the income or wealth of the other 49%.


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1 posted on 09/16/2008 7:31:25 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

The federal government can always fall back on the hidden tax of inflation and the more obvious deficit spending. While a super majority on tax increases would be nice it would be better to place it on increased spending.


2 posted on 09/16/2008 7:33:45 PM PDT by Conservative Actuary
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even at the city level there are problems.

some cities exclude lower income people from the tax increases that they vote on.

i don’t think that’s right.


3 posted on 09/16/2008 7:44:00 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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That, I believe, is something called a “poll tax”, and is illegal.


4 posted on 09/16/2008 7:50:16 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama IS running against Palin)
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To: doc1019

i think there’s a city in my valley doing this.

i’ll check around.


5 posted on 09/16/2008 7:52:02 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

Please, get back to me on this one if you find something. Lawsuit heaven, if true. ;-)


6 posted on 09/16/2008 7:58:16 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama IS running against Palin)
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To: doc1019

ok.

i heard it on the radio that people below a certain income level would not be taxed.


7 posted on 09/16/2008 8:03:24 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: doc1019

ok.

i heard it on the radio that people below a certain income level would not be taxed.


8 posted on 09/16/2008 8:03:33 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: doc1019

ok.

i heard it on the radio that people below a certain income level would not be taxed.


9 posted on 09/16/2008 8:03:43 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

something wrong with my vista?


10 posted on 09/16/2008 8:04:20 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: reaganaut1

I think that the less we change the constitution the better. Perhaps we should focus on changing Congress.

Generally speaking, people hate Congress—but like their own guy. We need to change that. We need to get rid of all of them. Period. Sometimes a few of the good need to go to make way for a new crop.


11 posted on 09/16/2008 8:07:39 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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What is most needed at the federal level is initiative and referendum. Then the people of the USA could overrule our corrupt representatives when necessary, which lately is most of the time.

I’ve always been very proud of being an American. But as I’ve grown old I’ve come to the conclusion that our system of government is only the second best in the world. Switzerland has the best, and we ought to swallow our pride and copy the best features of their governmental system.


12 posted on 09/16/2008 8:09:22 PM PDT by devere
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To: ken21
Yeah, it's Vista.

You should try the new OS; it's called Mojave, and is much better.

JUST KIDDING!

13 posted on 09/16/2008 8:16:08 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (I'm Right Guard, here to prevent B. O.)
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To: reaganaut1
My first thought was immediately "Cool Idea!" But realistically, I think that it should require a Constitutional Amendment. The reason being that the Constitution states how taxes are to be imposed. Since there are cases of super-majorities required for other votes, that implies that the Constitution requires just a simple majority to approve a tax.

Mark

14 posted on 09/16/2008 8:37:29 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: Vermont Lt
I think that the less we change the constitution the better. Perhaps we should focus on changing Congress.

Which would accelerate the transition from a Constitutional Republic to a Democracy, something that the founders never wanted, because they knew from history that it's nothing more than "mob rule."

Mark

15 posted on 09/16/2008 8:40:22 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: ken21
something wrong with my vista?

You need to type HARDER!

Mark

16 posted on 09/16/2008 8:41:04 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: MarkL

you mean

mouse

harder.

click that is.


17 posted on 09/16/2008 8:43:46 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: MarkL

How does voting out a do-nothing congress and replacing them with new blood change us from a republic? Methinks you misread my post.


18 posted on 09/16/2008 8:55:59 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: MarkL

“they knew from history that (democracy is) nothing more than “mob rule.”

Since 1891 Switzerland has proved otherwise. Our founding father respected experience more than mere theories.


19 posted on 09/16/2008 9:00:43 PM PDT by devere
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To: Vermont Lt

Oops... I accidentally replied to post #11, rather than post #12. This is what happens when I try Freeping without my trusty 52 oz mug of iced tea!

Nope, I actually agree 100% with your post. Take a look at #12 though, which talks about federal referendums. Scary thought!

Mark


20 posted on 09/17/2008 9:42:13 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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