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Preparing for the "Big What if": Buying a gun
WaPo & Free Republic ^ | Sept 15, 2008 | Joe Brower

Posted on 09/15/2008 10:58:51 AM PDT by Kevmo

The Washington Post article is already being commented upon here in Free Republic.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202414

The purpose of this thread is to help Freepers and lurkers decide upon what the best mode of self defense would be in the case of the breakdown in social order such as happened with the Rodney King riots.

Joe Brower owns one of the RKBA (Right to Keep and Bear Arms) ping lists. I tried to convince him to open this vanity because he and his friends are more knowledgeable about guns. He says, "there have already been threads on the subject you mention right here on FR, although I can't locate them now. Tell you what -- you start the thread and then ping me, and I'll then flag my RKBA list for comments. I'm sure some folks in that group would be able to provide links, as well as plenty of timely advice. "

This scenario is called the SHTF scenario, where the acronym stands for $#|+ Hits The Fan. So this will be the SHTF gun thread for November 2008... Of course, gun ownership isn't for everyone. But it is the most accessible safety measure under our constitution, which is as our founding fathers intended. Recall where the police were when the Rodney King riots started: they left the scene for their own safety. If that were to happen in your neighborhood, what is your plan?


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KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; mossberg; rkba; shallnotbeinfringed; shotguns; shtf; shtfscenario; smithandwesson; winchester
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Here are my particulars:

I live in silicon valley, in a working class neighborhood, mostly hispanic and mostly homeowners rather than renters. I have 2 kids under 9 years old, so it would be important to have a safe trigger lock thingamajiggie. For me, money is very tight right now, so I am focusing on Minimal Outlay in terms of weapon purchase and ammunition. In addition, when this all blows over and it turns out to be nothing (which I'm hoping for, like the Y2K scenario), then I would have a fun little plinker gun to go out into the woods and enjoy. So I'm thinking of buying a 0.22 rifle with a scope, maybe 1000 rounds of ammunition. I'm thinking of semi-auto, perhaps with a lever discharge. I intend to buy whatever is cheapest at Big 5 Sporting Goods or Walmart.

Please keep in mind that there are thousands of lurkers who know that they have the RKBA but are a little bit nervous about buying and owning a weapon. These are not seasoned shooters. I doubt a shotgun would be the right weapon for such neophytes.

Well, here goes. Be polite.

1 posted on 09/15/2008 10:58:52 AM PDT by Kevmo
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To: Kevmo; Joe Brower

Here’s the link to the WaPo article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202414

pinging Joe Brower


2 posted on 09/15/2008 11:00:03 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Kevmo

Two certainities:

1) Obama will not be the next President

2) There will be no real “riots” as a consequence.


3 posted on 09/15/2008 11:01:11 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

What do you mean by #2? What is a real riot versus a non-real riot, and why is “riot” in quotes? Please elaborate.


4 posted on 09/15/2008 11:03:14 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Kevmo

Link not working. Article not found.


5 posted on 09/15/2008 11:03:14 AM PDT by itsthejourney (Sarah-cuda IS the right reason)
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To: ZULU

Isn’t a “quiet riot” when Al Sharpton’s people don’t make any noise when they set your Jewish-owned store on fire???


6 posted on 09/15/2008 11:03:26 AM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: ZULU
Correction:

1. Obama may not be elected President

2. There will likely be riots nationwide.

7 posted on 09/15/2008 11:05:19 AM PDT by BubbaBasher (NEW: www.HypocriteLibs.org - Tracking the Slandering Liars in the MSM)
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To: Kevmo

Being a hunter, buy yourself a remington 870 shot gun (combo) it come with both deer and bird barrels the bird shot is good for maximum spead for self defense plus its one shot in the barrel and 4 in the stock.


8 posted on 09/15/2008 11:05:42 AM PDT by rstark56
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To: Kevmo

Don’t think we’ll have a problem here in small town South Alabama as 95% of us already have firearms and folks are basically sane.

But you never know.

Which makes Life interesting.


9 posted on 09/15/2008 11:06:03 AM PDT by silentreignofheroes (In my day,Flunking gym was not an option , even for Stupid Kids!)
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To: ZULU
3. I will have extra ammo on hand.
10 posted on 09/15/2008 11:06:52 AM PDT by BubbaBasher (NEW: www.HypocriteLibs.org - Tracking the Slandering Liars in the MSM)
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To: Kevmo
I can't find the article I wrote a few years back for this forum titled: "So You Want To Buy A Gun".

It shows up on a Google search, but it's not on the server anymore. I'll see if I can dig it up.

L

11 posted on 09/15/2008 11:06:52 AM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: ZULU

I absolutely agree with you.

Probably in some of the more violent cities in our country there will similar violence to that of when the Lakers or the Piston’s won the championship...but other than that, I believe that most on the left will get really loaded, pass out and come to the morning after and have a massive hang over — I don’t believe there will be any Jim Jones mass kool aid events or anything like that...the last time a group blindly followed a charismatic personality...


12 posted on 09/15/2008 11:07:16 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: Kevmo

A pump shotgun is a great weapon for a neophyte. Easy to aim. Easy to load and unload. Hard hitting effective rounds. Less likely to kill a bystander with an errant shot. Intimidating. And makes a great sound as you chamber a round.


13 posted on 09/15/2008 11:07:36 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Kevmo

If you are on a budget but serious about home & self-defense ... I bought a Mossberg `Maverick’ 12 gauge shotgun at Wally World for $177.00 not too long ago. The safety is on the trigger guard, like a Remington, so I could put a top folding stock on it. I also bought an 18 1/2” barrel, but the longer barrel is better. It chambers 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells. I plan to put it in my trunk right after Halloween.
Save the .22 for plinking cans and squirrels. Series.


14 posted on 09/15/2008 11:09:57 AM PDT by tumblindice (I'm sticking by my guns and voting for conservatives.)
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To: itsthejourney

Here’s the link to the Free Republic posting:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2082577/posts?page=112

Inside that post I clicked on the WaPo article and brought up this link. I don’t know why the link put up for the article title is different from this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202414.html?hpid=opinionsbox1


15 posted on 09/15/2008 11:10:17 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Kevmo

Just made two purchases — a Remington 870 and a Springfield Armory XD-40. What a sweet pistol.


16 posted on 09/15/2008 11:10:55 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: Kevmo; ZULU
I'm not answering for ZULU, but from experiencing fighting the rioters in Newark, N.J. in '67 & '68.

They don't leave their neighborhoods, but attempt to burn & steal everything from all businesses in them. They will also shoot at any white person who happens to be there, or passing through.

17 posted on 09/15/2008 11:13:25 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: dangerdoc

I think you meant, point, not aim...You aim a rifle, you point a shotgun. Been shooting them all my life, and taught it for the last 15 years.


18 posted on 09/15/2008 11:14:26 AM PDT by graywaiter (Gotta love those gun tote'n mommas.......)
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To: Kevmo
I wanted this for Christmas but yikes the price!
19 posted on 09/15/2008 11:15:39 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: Kevmo

http://www.ar-15-parts.com/


20 posted on 09/15/2008 11:16:25 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (I will not vote for Obama not because he is black, but because he is RED)
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