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1 posted on 09/12/2008 3:15:20 AM PDT by don-o
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2 posted on 09/12/2008 3:18:55 AM PDT by don-o (Avoid the rush. Donate to FR today. Do the RIGHT thing.)
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Just heard news that gas will be limited to $10 or 10 gallons (can’t remember) and prices will go up today.


3 posted on 09/12/2008 3:22:32 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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All the more reason why we should be drilling off shore in places other than the Gulf of Mexico, and we should be building refineries somewhere other than in the Gulf states.


6 posted on 09/12/2008 3:29:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion USMC '08!!)
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Someone posted the same info regarding FL yesterday....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2080238/posts
I have to get gas this morning, we’ll see what happens (I’m on LI).


9 posted on 09/12/2008 3:33:34 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (NObama is the face of evil.)
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Oil Refineries MUST BE SHUT DOWN in front of a Hurricane.

The short of this: BLAME THE ENVIROMENTAL WACKOS. They are pleased that drilling on ANWR and other places has not been opened up, and they would oppose the building of new refineries.

Please tell your liberal friends how the ENVIRONMENTALISTS play a role in this...

The sad news is that, until recently, there were no new refineries built in the United States in over 50 years.

I think the new one was built in South Dakota or Minnesota or somewhere.

The United States runs almost at 90% to 95% of the US Refinery Capacity.

More than likely, the combination of both Hurricane Gustav and Hurricane Ike are to blame. Gustav also caused refineries to shut down, but there was probably enough supply in the pipelines/storage to not cause problems.

Now, another Hurricane, so close after Gustav, is making this worse.

The US can import gasoline, but there has to be foresite of at least a week or two on that, and that is normally imported into New York City or Philadelphia on the East Coast.

The Midwest is pretty much dependent on the Gulf Coast oil refineries...

11 posted on 09/12/2008 3:35:33 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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There is good news-bad news with Hurricane Ike.

The bad news is that the storm is so big there are tropical storm watches up for places as far East as Baton Rouge/New Orleans.

They extend Southward beyond Corpus Christi. That leaves very few refineries open -- as I believe they must be shut in for even a Tropical Storm (a pipe breaking or other problem in strong winds can cause a catastrophic explosion.

The Good News is that it appears Hurricane IKE will not be much more than a Category 2 storm, and thus damage to a significant number of refineries around Houston, Texas City, Beaumont, Port Arthur, and also Lake Charles [Louisiana] should be minimal [I hope].

This is a good reason to PRAY for our friends in Texas (and Louisiana) to be spared this storm.

Of course, the Louisiana Superport has probably been shut down this week. That offloads crude oil, but I imagine it can also offload gasoline.

So once the storm passes, that should be back online.

Finally, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve can be used to get the WORKING REFINERIES back in business as soon as possible even if there is a shortage of crude oil (from both imports cut off and shutting in Gulf Coast oil production).

I think the numbers for oil production lost is about 1 million barrels a day -- give or take two to three hundred thousand barrels...

13 posted on 09/12/2008 3:42:50 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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Time to call your local Congress-critter to DRILL HERE/DRILL NOW about ANWR. Need to get more oil refineries built elsewhere in the country.

Need to start drilling for oil on the East Coast (Carolinas, Georgia, Florida Gulf Coast) as well as the West Coast (California offshore moratorium needs to be overridden).

The city of Long Beach, California recently enacted legislation (that Gov. Arnold Terminator had to sign) to start drilling in Long Beach harbor. This means big bucks to the City of Long Beach.

15 posted on 09/12/2008 3:47:04 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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This shortage WILL have an impact on the election. Dems will use the MSM to put the blame on Repubs. The sheeple will fall in line and be aghast.


28 posted on 09/12/2008 5:28:35 AM PDT by albie
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Hey Buddy,

I live rural. Gas went up $.10 here to $3.859 on Mon. night. Another increase will not be welcome here, but people will cope. Shortages will be another matter in rural areas.


30 posted on 09/12/2008 5:44:49 AM PDT by Roccus (Some day it'll all make sense.......................maybe.)
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I checked locally a few gas stations.

The prices were raised about 20 cents at one, and about 40 cents at another.

One that still had gasoline at yesterday's price was out of gas, but a gasoline was just pulling into the station as I went by. This was a .

An Exxon and Shell both had gasoline, as well as another gasoline station (not a national brand).

But I am a short haul from refineries -- South Louisiana with refineries in Lake Charles 70 miles West, Baton Rouge 50 miles East, and New Orleans (about 100 miles Southeast).

32 posted on 09/12/2008 11:21:03 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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Weigel’s went up 30 cents this morning and the two I drove by were out of regular unleaded.


35 posted on 09/12/2008 11:49:28 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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