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To: mnehrling

Hold on, fellas. Remember Jefferson and the tree of liberty? Remember the right to revolution? Remember why we have a Second Ammendment? Remember “Red Dawn”?

All Paul said was what our history books teach us. Someday, eventually, we may have to take up arms.


9 posted on 09/06/2008 5:42:39 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
Remember Jefferson and the tree of liberty?

We all do. Very few of us, however, remember the circumstances in which he wrote it. Even fewer recall Jefferson's reaction to Shay's rebellion and the Whiskey rebellion.

Remember the right to revolution?

We all do. Some remember the circumstances that necessitate it. Some evidently do not.

Remember why we have a Second Ammendment?

We all do, hopefully. Its purpose is twofold - as defense against foreign invasion and as a defense against the misuse of standing armies.

Remember “Red Dawn”?

It's sad to have to point this out, but Red Dawn was a movie. Specifically a movie about the occupation of the USA by foreign armies - in other words, circumstances different from the ones Paul is addressing.

All Paul said was what our history books teach us.

None of my history books taught me that we should look to mentally ill conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones for our political principles. They taught me to consider the Founders, not dolts.

Someday, eventually, we may have to take up arms.

If we do have to take up arms again it will have to be for the same reasons that our Founders took up arms - namely that some usurper has managed to abolish representative government. Not because an elected body of representatives has passed a law that we don't like.

110 posted on 09/06/2008 7:44:34 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Tublecane

“Hold on, fellas. Remember Jefferson and the tree of liberty? Remember the right to revolution? Remember why we have a Second Ammendment? Remember “Red Dawn”?
All Paul said was what our history books teach us. Someday, eventually, we may have to take up arms.”

Indeed.

“When in the course of human events...”

Where have I heard that before?

- John


122 posted on 09/06/2008 8:10:25 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Tublecane
Hold on, fellas. Remember Jefferson and the tree of liberty?

Don't use logic with the Ron Paul haters. Ron Paul could give a speech about how important tax cuts are and these same people would be here talking about how insane he is for saying that. Almost all of these threads are started by the same folks.
153 posted on 09/08/2008 8:00:56 AM PDT by mysterio
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