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Posted on 08/31/2008 4:28:08 PM PDT by cgk
Here is Alan Colmes in his own words, or his fans' own words, or other people's words... He's still digging.
The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are. Nothing like epithet-hurling if you want to make your point, or if you have strong objections to what someone says or does. Furthermore, I in no way mean to suggest that her child’s Down Syndrome was in any way related to decisions she made. In fact I never mentioned Down Syndrome in the post. However, I apologize that my post was not more clear on that point. That is my fault, and I’ll take responsibility for not being more clear on that point. That being said…
Jaru summed it up on a previous thread.
Conservative hate was re-routed via conservative blogs!
Anyway, I love how everyone keeps trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.
He asked a judgement question about a 7 month pregnant woman who just had her water break GET ON A 12 HOUR FLIGHT TO GIVE BIRTH after giving a 30 MINUTE SPEECH instead of doing the SENSIBLE THING AND STAYING PUT WITH A DOCTOR.
The idea that you can’t question Sarah Palin’s judgment because she has a Down Syndrome baby is right up there with the outrage some feel the minute you question a man who was held in a prison camp for five years. Yet, the same outraged protectors of our values have no trouble questioning Obama’s judgment: a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood, his choice of a church, his very faith, and then they blamed that on the Clintons). The question was even raised as to whether he is hiding the truth of his birth certificate. In fact, hotair.com, the the site most outraged about what I posted, was one of the prime venues of the birth certificate debate, among others concerning Obama’s “judgment”. And let’s not forget the attacks on Michelle Obama and the insinuations that she doesn’t really love her country.
For the record, I think the McCain choice of Palin was caculatingly smart, in that it guarantees that a glass ceiling be broken after the coming election. I’m sure Sarah Palin is a fine person who is just very wrong on the issues and, like all of us, hasn’t always shown perfect judgment. But don’t tell me that John McCain chose the best person for the job, or that he didn’t make this choice reactively, because Hillary Clinton is not on the Democratic ticket.
For the record, here is the link to Rogers Cadenhead’s post on the issue of judgment.
Maybe Palin’s actions can be written off as Alaskan grit, since she’s a macho hunting governor who jogs in freezing temperatures and dines on moose burgers. But as a parent myself, I think the Palins were extremely fortunate that their reckless stupidity did not end in tragedy. As middle-aged parents who already had four kids, the Palins had to be completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy. One commenter on the Washington Times laid out the enormous risk she was taking:
Airlines are unequipped to handle most emergencies at 30,000 feet, particularly the kind Palin put her unborn child at markedly increased risk for. These emergencies include birthing a premature infant or uncontrolled maternal bleeding. This was her FIFTH pregnancy and delivery can happen rapidly and unexpectedly. The baby or Palin could easily have died.
The Anchorage Daily News gave the chronology of events the day Palin was in Dallas giving a speech where she began contractions, and water broke. It quotes Dr. Laurie Gregg, a Sacramnto obstetrician:
[Dr. Laurie Gregg] who is active in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said when a pregnant woman’s water breaks, she should go right to the hospital because of the risk of infection. That’s true even if the amniotic fluid simply leaks out…”To us, leaking and broken, we are talking the same thing. We are talking doctor-speak,” Gregg said.
Down Syndrome is another matter, and can sometimes be related to a mother’s age. This is a risk that older parents take, and one the Palins took consciously, and not irresponsibly.
Because of prenatal testing, most families now know beforehand, said Judy Waldron, president of the Alaska chapter of the National Down Syndrome Congress, a support and education group that delivered a parent packet to the Palins in the hospital.
“They anticipate it and they kind of relish the challenge of having a child with special needs,” said Waldron, an Anchorage teacher whose 19-year-old daughter, Lyn, has Down syndrome.
If we are going to evaluate candidates based on life decisions: what churches they attend, what religions they practice, who their preachers are, who their friends are, all of which fall under the rubrick of “judgment”, then all of this is fair game. That argument cuts many ways so, to quote my least favorite president, “Bring it on.”
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It is indeed. And most people have the good judgment not to have William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright on their list of friends.
I feel bad for Colmes. It’s bad enough being the homliest person on the planet but being the dumbest also? It has to be tough.
Feel the Leftist Love.
My experience with my wife and child birth is that I always deferred to her judgment. As if a man could know. Hey Alan, what is your basis for comment if you are a man?
Perhaps Colmes should talk to there women.
Wonder what they would say to Alan.
Famous Older Moms Compiled by Monica Hesse, September & October 2005
Having children later in life is a popular choice for celebrities, whose fast-paced careers often make starting a family in their 20s or 30s difficult. Here’s what some famous older moms have said about the ups and downs of motherhood
Kay Bailey Hutchison, 62 Senior senator from Texas and mother of Bailey, 4, and Houston, 3 “Our children are beautiful beyond belief, except for a few occasions at 3:30 a.m.”
Sharon Stone, 47 Mother of Roan, 5, and Laird, 5 months “I have more support and love and kindness than at any other time in my life.”
Diane Keaton, 59 Mother of Dexter, 9, and Duke, 4 “Afternoons, I pick up the kids and run around like a chicken with its head cut off. I collapse at 9 p.m. I’m like a farmer woman.”
Joan Lunden, 55 Mother of Jamie, 24, Lindsay, 22, Sarah, 17, twins Max and Kate, 2, and twins Jack and Kimberly, 7 months “The best way to approach bathing, feeding, and dressing the younger ones is like an assembly line.”
Cheryl Tiegs, 58 Mother of Zack, 14, and twins Jaden and Theo, 5 “I can’t say that all women should become mothers after 50; yet for me, it’s great.”
Susan Sarandon, 59 Mother of Eva, 20, Jack Henry, 16, and Miles, 13 “I had my kids late. I didn’t think I could have them and I didn’t expect to have them. But they are my best work.”
Deidre Hall, 57 Mother of David, 13, and Tully, 10 “I hope to teach my sons inner strength and empathy, and a deep love and loyalty to each other
"Homely"? Puh-leeze, I'm homely. Homely, loosely defined, is plain, no obvious outward beaty.
Colmes is butt-ugly, bug-eyed scary.
Did Palin take proper pre-natal care? Shame on her! We all know the RESPONSIBLE thing to do is to suck your child’s brains out with a vacuum. Palin should be ashamed!
We need another one just to make them squirm a little more... Republicans: The Party for Families.
The McCains have 7 kids. The Palins have 5. That is a winning image.
I used to have respect for Colmes, it’s gone now.
Alan Colmes is a hypocrite every time he utters the word birth.
Colmes is a smarmy, arrogant, steaming turd.
I guess she doesn’t have to call alan colmes for advice. It wasn’t like it was her first child.
Was young Ann seduced by an already married Obama Sr. on her birthday? Was she looking to "lose it" on her 18th birthday, now that she was a college girl?
Are these the kinds of speculations that Alan Colmes would be interested in pursuing?
-PJ
Colmes is having a huge Don Imus moment. Hannity needs to take the higher road and get the hell out!
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