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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg
Rush was right that this represents a huge change for conservatives. Even if "we" win we're going to be very unhappy a lot of the time. And, there will be some who vote for Barr rather than McCain. I just pray he was wrong about changing the party forever

The Republican Party is out of step with reality. It has closed ranks around what most people call "fly over areas" where people still hunt for food, where family trees don't have too many branches and where religion and guns are all they have.

To that, add the lingering remnant of the Great Generation that has no other place to go.

The Republican Party Convention had a total of 36 black delegates, or 1.5% of the total delegate count. If the Democrats are being accused of "sexim" I think the Republicans deserve to be accused of "racism."

But I agree with Rush (on this issue), although he probably retracted his prediction, or forgot all about it. The Republican Party was never defined by men like John McCain, NEVER! His service is appreciated, but one of the greatest icons of the Republican Party, Ronald Reagan never served and he was a very effective president.

John F. Kennedy was never a governor. To the best of my knowledge he wasn't even a mayor. And George Washington was a general, like Ike Eisenhower, and they both did just fine without gubernatorial expedience. McCain was merely a squadron commander after his release.

Now, the Party is dominated by neocons who were not even Republicans before they decided to switch loyalties, by RINOs, and by various nontraditional groups. They all seem to be united, however, in their racially almost pure makeup (98.5% non-black delegate makeup).

But the reality is that America is not 98.5% non-black. I think it's safe to say that the GOP is now a liberal organization that is out of touch with America's reality trying to cut ties to anything G. W. Bush did in the past 8 years, while clinging to guns and religion, in my opinion. And I think this (retrograde) change is permanent, just as Rush suggested.

In all honesty I have to kind of laugh at myself since McCain may be the only (R) who has a whisker's chance of preventing a total socialist from getting in this time around.

If Obama wins, thank G. W. Bush.

Among a few other potentially good things, at least McCain should get the financial house in order if elected.

How so? The man doesn't even know how many houses he owns, or which car does he own.

432 posted on 09/06/2008 12:38:44 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; Marysecretary; Dr. Eckleburg
The Republican Party is out of step with reality. It has closed ranks around what most people call "fly over areas" where people still hunt for food, where family trees don't have too many branches and where religion and guns are all they have.

Yeah, well I LIVE in fly over country and us folks are delighted and encourage those who think like you do to just keep thinking of us exactly like that. Obama dismisses us like that too, and I hope it continues.

The Republican Party Convention had a total of 36 black delegates, or 1.5% of the total delegate count. If the Democrats are being accused of "sexism" I think the Republicans deserve to be accused of "racism."

We Republicans don't judge others by skin color. Democrats do that. Therefore, no token black delegates at the convention. Those who get to be delegates are those who do the most work for the party and in the campaigns. If you can show me where black Republican prospective delegates were denied because of skin color, then make your charge and back it up. You cannot, and I assume your point is there is likewise no charge against liberals for sexism against Palin. We obviously don't agree on what sexism is. I gave you solid examples which you brisked away. The only comparison I can think of is when the New Black Panthers claim that blacks are incapable of racism by definition. I gathered that you didn't think it possible for liberals to be sexist for the same reason.

But the reality is that America is not 98.5% non-black. I think it's safe to say that the GOP is now a liberal organization that is out of touch with America's reality trying to cut ties to anything G. W. Bush did in the past 8 years, while clinging to guns and religion, in my opinion. And I think this (retrograde) change is permanent, just as Rush suggested.

I don't think the GOP is now liberal. Bush went "all in" with the war and is now very unpopular. The only chance Republicans had was to let the blue bloods have a turn this time. I think that's all it is. I still think the conservative base wields a ton of power. Harriet Meiers, amnesty, Lieberman as VP? If Obama wins he won't have to deal with us, but if McCain wins, he WILL. :) We just didn't have the talent this time around.

If Obama wins, thank G. W. Bush.

To some extent, yeah, but in the same breath I thank George Bush that we have had no more terrorist attacks on our soil since 9/11. There is no way in the universe that would be true had either Gore or Kerry been elected. In a sense, Bush practiced what McCain has preached, rather losing an election (2006 and maybe this year) than a war.

473 posted on 09/08/2008 1:39:16 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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