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Vandals in Hot Water for 'Fixing' Typo on Historic Grand Canyon Sign (What the?)
Fox News ^ | 8-23-08 | AP

Posted on 08/23/2008 9:57:59 AM PDT by Terriergal

PHOENIX —

When it comes to marking up historic signs, good grammar is a bad defense. Two self-styled vigilantes against typos who defaced a more than 60-year-old, hand-painted sign at Grand Canyon National Park were sentenced to probation and banned from national parks for a year.

Jeff Deck and Benjamin Herson pleaded guilty Aug. 11 for the damage done March 28 at the park's Desert View Watchtower. The sign was made by Mary Elizabeth Jane Colter, the architect who designed the rustic 1930s watchtower and other Grand Canyon-area landmarks.

Deck and Herson, both 28, toured the United States this spring, wiping out errors on government and private signs. They were interviewed by NPR and the Chicago Tribune, which called them "a pair of Kerouacs armed with Sharpies and erasers and righteous indignation."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: typos; vandals
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Uhh... this is just bizarre. I can sympathize with the vandals. I hate blatant bad grammar, spelling, typos... especially on official documents!

So... are they going to "fix" the signs back to the crummy condition they were in before? or are they going to replace them with the corrections? And why did they get put up with errors in the first place?

Close enough for government work I guess.

1 posted on 08/23/2008 9:57:59 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal
60-year-old, hand-painted sign at Grand Canyon National Park

The sign was made by Mary Elizabeth Jane Colter, the architect who designed the rustic 1930s watchtower

So was the sign made in the 1930s along with the tower itself or was it made in the late 1940s?

And since it was handpainted, it was not a government error nor something they should have altered.

Go up to a picasso painting in a museum and "fix" the anatomy, see where that gets you.

2 posted on 08/23/2008 10:03:50 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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You know I just despise this compulsive hangup some people have on typo's, and correct usage .. and they cannot wait to correct it they see one. How they love to be THE ONE to show others that they know better.

You know what? Sometimes what a person has to say is more important than any tyyyyypo's or incorrect usage.

There I made a typo. Is your hair on fire?

3 posted on 08/23/2008 10:04:09 AM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: Terriergal

I have no sympathy for them. None.


4 posted on 08/23/2008 10:04:50 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Terriergal
From the article:

Authorities said a diary written by Deck reported that while visiting the watchtower, he and Herson "discovered a hand-rendered sign inside that, I regret to report, contained a few errors."

The fiberboard sign has yellow lettering with a black background. Deck wrote that they used a marker to cover an erroneous apostrophe, put the apostrophe in its proper place with white-out and added a comma.

The misspelled word "emense" was not fixed, Deck wrote, because "I was reluctant to disfigure the sign any further. ... Still, I think I shall be haunted by that perversity, emense, in my train-whistle-blighted dreams tonight."

5 posted on 08/23/2008 10:05:34 AM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver....is anyone's guess....August 25 - 28, 2008)
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This sign was hand-painted by Mary Colter. She designed most of the older buildings at Grand Canyon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Colter


6 posted on 08/23/2008 10:06:20 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A History and Science Minute.- "Climate change" has been going on for millions of years!)
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To: Terriergal

It was’nt their sign to correct.


7 posted on 08/23/2008 10:07:21 AM PDT by linn37 (Hail Me, Obama or be cast into the firey pits of eternal damnation!")
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To: Terriergal

This is hugh! Series!


8 posted on 08/23/2008 10:07:55 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Terriergal

uIf I make errors, even if I see them before posting, I don’t fix them.

If you don’t like it tough!!!!


9 posted on 08/23/2008 10:11:16 AM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: Terriergal
"Uhh" [sic]


10 posted on 08/23/2008 10:16:34 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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“Still, I think I shall be haunted by that perversity, emense, in my train-whistle-blighted dreams tonight.”

I imagine putting Prince Grammar in prison for awhile would at least give him something else to “be haunted by that perversity” at night.

11 posted on 08/23/2008 10:16:36 AM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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On second thought, from now on i’ll make a lot of intentional ones just to tick uou off!!!!


12 posted on 08/23/2008 10:17:14 AM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: Terriergal

what was the misspelling?

was it correct for the time?

It is the classic example of the “no life” no-it-alls who just can’t let an innocent type go.

Yes it was mispelled, yes it was old.

What next, go through and correct all the old writing on colonial documents from 200 years ago?

(wasn’t dog once spelled “dorg”?)


13 posted on 08/23/2008 10:21:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Here is a link that shows the actual sign:

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=522

I think it is telling that no one noticed for a month or more.

These idiots would never have been caught if they had not posted a web site about their crime and boasted about it.

Most criminals are caught because they cannot keep their mouth shut.


14 posted on 08/23/2008 10:34:35 AM PDT by marktwain
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In a sane world, someone would have shoved their entire stock of Sharpie pens up the anal orifices of these destructive smart asses.

Let them figure out how to correct THAT.

15 posted on 08/23/2008 10:35:27 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Terriergal

bump


16 posted on 08/23/2008 10:46:50 AM PDT by VOA
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You know I just despise this compulsive hangup some people have on typo's, and correct usage .. and they cannot wait to correct it they see one. How they love to be THE ONE to show others that they know better.

You rang?

In your sentence, "typo's" should not be spelled with an apostrophe.

17 posted on 08/23/2008 10:50:22 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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So... are they going to "fix" the signs back to the crummy condition they were in before?

No. They will leave it as it is and then they will fill in and polish down the crack in the Liberty Bell to make the bell look as if it was never damaged. < /sarc>

The sign was 60 years old and hand-painted by the original architect of the Grand Canyon architectural monuments. It was not perfect for the Grammar Police but it was original History as it was created by the historical figure.

It no longer is.

A original historical artifact is an original historical artifact, warts and all.

18 posted on 08/23/2008 10:50:44 AM PDT by Polybius
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I disagree with you. Whenever I see incorrect parts of speech, bad grammar and misspelling of words, I feel it undermines the credibility of the poster. If an individual has such a simple matter as parts of speech wrong, what else have they got wrong? Are they also incorrect on facts? Anyone can present an argument or tell you how they feel about something but if they can’t express themselves using their own native tongue, I would be embarrassed to cite their comment. Generally I don’t openly criticize “English challenged” posts. I have however, been known (rarely) to dismiss someone for this reason, if they are obnoxious.

I don't consider myself an elitist, but I am disgusted at the inferior “product” of the American public school system nowadays. I graduated from a public high school in 1976, back when people were taught how to spell.

19 posted on 08/23/2008 11:10:24 AM PDT by DCBurgess58 (McCain 08! HE SUCKS LESS!)
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These idiots would never have been caught if they had not posted a web site about their crime and boasted about it.

A little research discloses that this was a premeditated crime!

"For centuries, travellers have crossed America to explore it, conquer it, settle it, exploit it and study it. Now, a small but righteous crew are traversing America in order to edit it. Jeff Deck, and his friends at the Typo Eradication Advancement League (Teal), are spending three months driving from San Francisco, California, to Somerville, Massachusetts, on a mission to correct every misspelled, poorly punctuated, sloppily phrased item of signage they encounter en route. Equipped with marker pens, stickers and white-out, they are seeking to scourge America's landscape of floating apostrophes, logic-defying syntax and other manifestations of laziness and/or illiteracy."

i also find it interesting that the article describing the crime is replete with its own errors:

"Jeff Michael Deck, 28, of Somerville, Mass., and Benjamin Douglas Herson, 28, of Virginia Beach, Va., pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Flagstaff after damaging a rare, hand-painted sign in Grand Canyon National Park. They were sentenced to a year's probation, during which they cannot enter any national park, and were ordered to pay restitution."
The defaced sign was not "rare." The usage of that word implies that there are more, identical signs saying the same thing but that they exist only in a limited production. The word the author should have used is "unique," establishing the fact that there is only one such sign. Perhaps these miscreants should have been sentenced to tracking down every copy of the newspaper with that mis-used word and correcting it by hand with their "erasers" and "marking pens."

(The author of this FreeRepublic reply always attempts to include something in his comments for everyone. He is also aware that some people compulsively need to seek out errors; so, In recognition of these facts, he has thoughtfully included some.)

20 posted on 08/23/2008 11:15:12 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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