Take a breath and re-read my post. I didn't say they were any of those things...I simply stated they laid the groundwork for it.
I have mixed feelings about the Guardian Angels. Their intent is certainly noble and affords citizens a highly visible channel for positively influencing their community. While they are not government security forces, they certainly work in close conjunction with LE (just like any neighborhood watch for that matter).
On the downside, Sliwa's choice of a beret and distinctive uniform, IMHO, fosters an attitude, or at least an impression, of elitism. While they operate in no official capacity, and Sliwa has never claimed that they do, their uniforms suggest an imprimatur of officialdom. In fairness to Sliwa, the good they have done has far outweighed any of the negatives.
Having said that, I'd be willing to bet if Obama got his "citizen security force" a large percentage of those currently in the GA's would be at the front of the line to sign up.
What Obama has called for is a "civilian/citizen national security force." I've never heard an actual definition for what this is supposed to be exactly; perhaps a national police force like virtually every other nation on earth has, a federally funded neighborhood watch, or just a different name to legitimize the new black panthers...who knows...I'd guess it would be kind of like what Wilson did with American Legion members in WWI, giving them a sort of quasi-deputization to root out political opposition in the name of national security.
I'm not saying Sliwa himself would sanction or condone any such organization, merely that he has created a stepping stone that would make implementation of any such organization a bit more palatable to the average American, and has made it much easier to sell membership in such an organization as a matter of "volunteerism" or "community service."
Please don't give me the "like other countries" B.S. This is the United States of America. We are free and we have preserved and restored freedom to most of the planet precisely because we are not like other nations. A NATIONAL police force is like giving a leader an ax; he can use it to chop wood lying still on the ground, or he can get a few bullies to help him hold the victims down and he can start chopping heads. A force of the scope Obama has already described would have the capacity to enforce a dictatorship. If necessary, it should be outlawed by Constitutional Amendment.
disagree with you. organized crime tried to do him in. he is not being pursued by anyone for having violated anyone’s civil rights. his organization is asked to come into neighborhoods in order to supplement law enforcement and be a presence that helps prevent crime.
to suggest that obama’s “internal security force” had its beginnings in a “right wing” movement such as the guardian angels is ridiculous.
obama is being promoted by the left wing of the democrat party. if a left winger promtes an “internal security force” it would be gratuitous in that there already exist local police forces, the f.b.i, atf, not to mention state police forces.
in light of that, what would the use of an “internal security force” be in a representative republic with the tools already in place for security to exist?