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1 posted on 08/19/2008 12:25:05 PM PDT by SJackson
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“Some European powers, like Germany, have been counseling restraint, anxious not to aggravate the crisis and jeopardize their energy supplies from Russia.”

Oh what a tangled web we weave.


2 posted on 08/19/2008 12:27:11 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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Ohhhh....Do we not learn from history. "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." -Sam Adams The general idea applies toward Germany and other's apathy...
3 posted on 08/19/2008 12:35:04 PM PDT by griffin
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Russia is mocking NATO - and I guess rightfully so. NATO is showing itself to be nearly as irrelevant as the UN.

And why in the world would Russia have a representative to NATO? I always thought that NATO was organized as a defense AGAINST Russia and it’s aggression...


4 posted on 08/19/2008 12:38:42 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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Bring our troops home and let NATO defend Europe. Maybe George Washington had the right idea afterall. Those ninnies don’t want to be free.....


5 posted on 08/19/2008 12:40:22 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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It’s obvious now.....Russian troops have not had the sensitivity and diversity training that American Troops have had.


7 posted on 08/19/2008 12:42:13 PM PDT by gitmogrunt (Eyewitness this..thru the prism of the Balkans..and you may see 9/11.)
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Well... at least the “nuclear threat” has dropped, huh?


9 posted on 08/19/2008 12:45:00 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on Russia/China/DPRK et al.)
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If NATO is not careful, it could begin to give isolationism a good name again in this country.


10 posted on 08/19/2008 12:45:59 PM PDT by surely_you_jest ( Obamarrhoids are a pain in the ass . . . .)
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If we rely on NATO, it’s going to be another UN/Iraq scenario. In other words, at the request of non-combatants, we’ll wait until the enemy has gotten strong enough to cost us (that is, the US) billions of dollars to uproot. NATO and the UN are about on the same level nowadays.


11 posted on 08/19/2008 12:58:19 PM PDT by livius
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Russia can ask, "what are you going to do about it?" with little worry that anyone has an interesting answer, let along that anyone is going to kick them out. It might be possible to hurt Russia in some meaningful way, but they aren't poor any more and are making money from selling the Europeans energy. So really, what is Europe going to do other than write a nasty letter and then not send it?

If anyone is going to do something, it has to be the people who have an immediate motivated self interest such as Georgia, Ukraine, Poland and the rest of the former Soviet states and territories who want to remain "former" and don't want history to repeat itself. Europe is lost unless or until they feel threatened enough to act...and by then it'll be too late, just like it was twice last century. The lesson they seem to have learned is to surrender until someone like the US saves them.

13 posted on 08/19/2008 1:53:06 PM PDT by GBA
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Russia's representative to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, made light of the western alliance's indecision. "The mountain gave birth to a mouse," he told reporters.

Just this morning, I was looking for a place to insert reference to the flick "The Mouse that Roared." I figured Russia would sooner or later equate itself to that flick and story. Description: An impoverished backward nation declares a war on the United States of America, hoping to lose.

BTW: It's a comedy.

If the above is what Mr. Rogozin has said, this tells me Russia has begun to feel the pinch.

14 posted on 08/19/2008 2:00:31 PM PDT by Alia
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