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"South Ossetia, payback for Kosovo"
B92 ^ | 8/10/08 | Beta

Posted on 08/11/2008 10:29:32 AM PDT by Bokababe

WARSAW -- Polish analysts and a part of the political scene are linking the South Ossetia crisis to that in Kosovo, Beta says.

The current armed conflict in the breakaway Georgian region is seen as the Russian answer to the western recognition of Kosovo Albanians' unilateral declaration of independence, the Polish media are saying.

"This is the Russian answer to the recognition of Kosovo. That recognition was in fact a gift to Russia," Polish People's Party European MP Janusz Wojciechowski told TVN24.

Wojciechowski, whose party is a partner in Donald Tusk's cabinet, warned that the case of Kosovo, where a part of the international community accepted the declaration of secession, "shows that it cannot be counted on double standards to pass".

"Russia is using it now", he concluded.

Warnings that the recognition of Kosovo will serve to the detriment of Georgia were heard in Poland as early as February this year.

Bearing in mind the risks for Poland's allies in the Caucasus, Georgia above all, Warsaw's recognition of the Kosovo Albanians' secession was described as an irresponsible move by the legendary anti-communist leader and former Polish president, Lech Walesa.

"Recognizing Kosovo will bring nothing but trouble. No one can be denied the right to self-determination, but only within the bounds of common sense," he was quoted as saying at the time.

Walesa stressed in his statements to the Polish media that Kosovo was "with its irresponsible behavior, causing new divisions in Europe and globally and undermining international relations".


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; georgia; kosovo; neocons; payback; russia; southossetia
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1 posted on 08/11/2008 10:29:32 AM PDT by Bokababe
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 08/11/2008 10:31:09 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
"Recognizing Kosovo will bring nothing but trouble. No one can be denied the right to self-determination, but only within the bounds of common sense," he was quoted as saying at the time."

As always, Lech Walesa succinctly puts into perspective what should have been on all of these state government head's minds. Including George Bush. What was he thinking when he compounded Bill Clinton's mistakes?
3 posted on 08/11/2008 10:36:51 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

What was he thinking when he compounded Bill Clinton’s mistakes? ...........appeasement of muslims...........


4 posted on 08/11/2008 10:38:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Bokababe

No ****!!!!! You mean, like somebody done figured it out or something like that??


5 posted on 08/11/2008 10:39:55 AM PDT by damondonion
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To: Red Badger
"appeasement of muslims"

If that's the case, we better get our women to all wear hajabs and everyone convert to Islam, then pass sharia law. That's what its going to take to appease the radical muslims.
6 posted on 08/11/2008 10:40:41 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Bokababe

If it’s payback for Kosovo, why are the Russians not restricting their invasion to South Ossetia?


7 posted on 08/11/2008 10:41:52 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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I mean, freedom and independence are wonderful, provided you do it on your own property. What we have with Kosovo is a case of slow-motion land theft, which isn’t exactly the same thing.


8 posted on 08/11/2008 10:42:22 AM PDT by damondonion
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Sadly, that is so. The Crusades never ended...........


9 posted on 08/11/2008 10:43:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Lech wasn’t the only person who thought we were idiots to back Kosovoan independence. It was a thumb in Russia’s eye for one thing. It was totally unnecessary.


10 posted on 08/11/2008 10:45:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Exactly... That was just a lame excuse... All of South Ossetia has less than 100,000 folks... Kosovo is 2 million...

If it's payback, why is the sKum Russian govt deep into the heart of Georgia?

11 posted on 08/11/2008 10:45:17 AM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- Vote for McCain)
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To: Bokababe

I look forward to Georgia and Kosovo joining NATO.


12 posted on 08/11/2008 10:46:28 AM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: NYC Republican

If it’s payback, why is the sKum Russian govt deep into the heart of Georgia?


to show bordering countries that the west will not protect them.


13 posted on 08/11/2008 10:49:01 AM PDT by austrian
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To: HAL9000

Just imagine that Georgia entered NATo in Bucharest summit some weeks ago?
Amd Sakashvilli AS NATO country- president attacked Russian troops.

Just how could Bush convince Putin that US are not behind deaths of Russian soldiers?

And how would Russians react?


14 posted on 08/11/2008 10:53:59 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Lech wasn’t the only person who thought we were idiots to back Kosovoan independence. It was a thumb in Russia’s eye for one thing. It was totally unnecessary.


I never understood the Kosovo thing. Never. Not for one minute. It never made any sense.

But maybe the muzzies blackmailed Krinton and Blair - said liberate Kosovo or else? Krinton and Blair did this. And then maybe *that’s* what all the stuffing of documents into pants had to do with during the 9/11 inquiry.

Krinton gets “Peace in our Time” and the “Peace Dividend”, the muzzies get a toehold in the soft underbelly of Europe, aka the Balkans, and we get attacked on 9/11 after Krinton leaves office. And then when the 9/11 “commission” starts asking question Sandy Burgler and Jamie Gore-Lick are around to make sure none of this sees the light of day.

Makes about as much sense as anything else.


15 posted on 08/11/2008 10:54:12 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: DoughtyOne
"It was a thumb in Russia’s eye for one thing."

I agree. I thought it was so stupid for Bush to compound Clinton's idiocy from 1999. I'm all for putting a thumb in Russia's eye, but there has to be a legitimate reason. A bunch of Moslems that are now going to be a welfare state of the UN is not a reason. Kosovo is about the size of L.A. Is that a reason to get Russia pissed at us?? Does Kosovo actually produce anything? Probably Al Quada members now.
16 posted on 08/11/2008 10:56:52 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

When it comes to the Clintons, trying to figure out what caused them to do things is an exercise in futility. It doesn’t have to make sense. It probably doesn’t. That doesn’t mean they get a free pass. It just means that’s how bad their rule is.

I just don’t understand why Bush recognized Kosovoan independence right away. We should expect Bush’s moves to make sense. This sure didn’t.


17 posted on 08/11/2008 10:59:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Sounds about right to me. I agree.


18 posted on 08/11/2008 11:00:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: NYC Republican
It is payback, its payback for building a US base in Kosovo and encroaching on Russia's backyard. Basically they are making a statement to the US that it won't put up with US meddling anymore.

Bush will not do one thing to help Georgia, the Russians are making the US look impotent.

19 posted on 08/11/2008 11:04:19 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Bokababe
"South Ossetia, payback for Kosovo"

And for advancing the boundaries of NATO into former Warsaw pact nations and especially into former Soviet Republics. From the Russian point of view, the west gave the Slavs (Serbs) the finger when taking Kosovo from them. They continue to Give the Russians the finger by inviting former Soviet Republics into NATO. Western globalists want Russia's resources. This is the Bush-Clinton-Bush legacy. They are trading the hopes of former Soviet Republics to be free of the Bear for access to cheap resources. Russia wants these for itself.

So Bush tells Putie to stop it. Putie says F'k you. Now who wants to send their kids to fight for the interests of wealthy, greedy globalists? Not I. Let the European globalists send their kids to fight.

20 posted on 08/11/2008 11:09:54 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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