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no i called it a good raid because they got what they were looking for and no one was hurt.

but i have consistently questioned the reasoning for their tactics. but i do not question the raid itself.

and as i had stated earlier in this thread, those guys in minneapolis are a joke. i would have not shown up for that medal ceremony.

no i called it a good raid because they got what they were looking for and no one was hurt.

But they didn't. They already HAD the package and the were trying to get some criminals, some dealers. They did not get those. Did they get information on those people? Probably no more than they could have gotten by asking nicely or googling the guy. Looks to me like they have nothing at all to show for two dead dogs. Nothing they did not have at the moment that drug dog snuffed out the package. I call that abject failure. If they are so worried about peoples pets they can put on some damn kevlar pants and grow some testicles. Anyone that would shoot a fleeing Labrador does not have balls worth defending in the first place. The difference between police in a free country and Gestapo tactics are whether or not the police are considered better and more important than those they are trying to protect. If the safety of the cops is considered less important than the lives an property of the citizens then this is no longer a free country.

Did you know that in ancient Rome they were not allowed to put chains (handcuffs) on a citizen even when arresting them? Because a citizen was not to be treated as a slave. Even if they had committed a crime. They could take them to jail at sword point or even shoot them with arrows if they ran but they could not clap them in chains. The right of a citizen to not be treated as subhuman was more important than making some guards jobs easier.

I am an avid shooter and a NRA trained firearms instructor. I take my firearms safety very seriously. I do not in anyway consider a few pounds of a drug worth pointing automatic weapons at people and discharging those weapons in their home. That is deadly force and is not proportionate to the suspected crime and level of immediate risk to the community.