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Long article, focuses on Arizona and California.
1 posted on 07/05/2008 6:02:02 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

If they’re hiring illegals they should be tough guys behind bars.


2 posted on 07/05/2008 6:07:50 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama (Marxist), Manchuria)
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To: shrinkermd

This is leaning towards a national database. If the employers are presented with authentic (possibly stolen) papers, then they should not be held accountable. But then you’ll have employers falsifying documents, this happens alot in the construction industry.

I’m torn on this one. However KNOWINGLY hiring illegals, or a high percentage of illegals should be a no brainer, jail.


3 posted on 07/05/2008 6:10:24 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: shrinkermd
Short-term profit is more important than country. That seems to be what is getting us in trouble in many areas....short term profit is the holy grail.

Sooner or later though a bunch of short-terms end up to be a "long-term" and you find that the basis of your prosperity....America....is no longer a good foundation for profit.
4 posted on 07/05/2008 6:21:21 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: shrinkermd
"Business groups have resisted measures that would revoke the licenses of employers of illegal immigrants. They are proposing alternatives that would revise federal rules for verifying the identity documents of new hires..."

These business groups should be arrested.

5 posted on 07/05/2008 6:28:21 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: shrinkermd; All
"They are proposing alternatives that would revise federal rules for verifying the identity documents of new hires and would expand programs to bring legal immigrant laborers."

Illegal subsidize

Guest Worker

7 posted on 07/05/2008 6:35:02 PM PDT by musicman
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To: shrinkermd
It should run like this....employers (*all* employers) ask each and *every* individual they hire for one or more confirmatory documents proving one's right to live and work here (birth cert,green card.etc,etc).Failure to present such a document results in the person being forbidden from being hired.All documents submitted are sent to DC (the State Dept?...the INS?) to verify validity.If validity cannot be established within 30 business word is sent to the employer ordering that the employee be either suspended (without pay,benefits,unemployment compensation,etc) or fired.If a particular person's document can be verified after suspension or dismissal then the employee can be reinstated/rehired.If the document submitted is shown to be phony the case is turned over to the DOJ for prosecution.

No exceptions.

None!

8 posted on 07/05/2008 6:36:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: shrinkermd

I want to be clear up front I didn’t read more than the first page of the article although I usually do before posting.

I own a small business in Tucson, Arizona and agree that there is a problem hiring illegals here. And that we need to stop that practice.

What I don’t like is making business owners responsible for border enforcement. If they can’t get here I can’t hire them. As far as I know I’ve never hired an illegal and I never will on purpose. As another insane obstacle here in Arizona (according to my employment agency) I can’t even inquire as to immigration status until AFTER I hire them. Then if they’re a member of some protected minority my company may get sued.

But there are people (insert well-known but unsayable group name here) that are crossing our borders that don’t want jobs; they want jihad and checking a federal database won’t keep them out.


9 posted on 07/05/2008 6:52:01 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Do I waste my time explaining? He had such trouble with my name.)
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To: shrinkermd

Lie about your employee’s immigration status.
Cheat, undercut your competitor’s costs with illegal immigration.
Steal the identity of an American.


13 posted on 07/05/2008 8:11:34 PM PDT by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: shrinkermd

Good. Have them all sign up to complain. Then investigate and start jailing the CEOs.


14 posted on 07/05/2008 8:14:22 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: shrinkermd

In 1992 I had the choice of violating every wage,labor.an tax law and staying in business but chose to close a 57 year old firm.

I want to see every employer if illegals in prison and fined the maximum.

It’s personal!!!


19 posted on 07/05/2008 9:14:37 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: shrinkermd

These guys love the cheap labor, as long as the taxpayer foots the bill for everything else. Now they are in danger of getting caught and are squealing like stuck pigs. I have zero sympathy for these people.


20 posted on 07/05/2008 9:14:37 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: shrinkermd

For the sake of short term profit these people will sell the country out in a second.


34 posted on 07/06/2008 5:32:26 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


35 posted on 07/06/2008 7:48:25 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: shrinkermd

Many employers found themselves on the political defensive as they grappled, even in an economic downturn, with shortages of low-wage labor.

There is no shortage of American labor. Unemployment among the 18-25 year olds seeking entry-level jobs is at an all time high, affecting the African American community the most. A recent San Jose Mercury News article cited teens are find it nearly impossible to get summer jobs.

In California, businesses have turned to elected officials, including the Democratic mayor of Los Angeles, to lobby federal immigration authorities against raiding long-established companies.

And who better to lobby than Mayor Villaraigosa, a once proud member of MEChA, a racist organization that calls for the secession of the Southwest U.S.A..

Also in recent months, immigration bills were defeated in Indiana and Kentucky - states where control of the legislatures is split between Democrats and Republicans - owing in part to warnings from business groups that the measures could hurt the economy.

Unless the American middle and working classes are willing to work for Mexican slave wages and accept poverty and obedience as a way of life, it could hurt the economy? It works for me (/sarc)!

McDonald’s Corp. and Illegal Immigration

38 posted on 07/06/2008 1:27:48 PM PDT by Technoman
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