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Do Liberals Love America Too?
American Thinker ^ | July 04, 2008 | Rick Moran

Posted on 07/04/2008 6:19:51 AM PDT by vietvet67

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To: vietvet67

Do Liberals Love America too?
Of course not. When someone spends their entire daily efforts to destroy, degrade and demoralize something, how could they be said to love it?
They love what they want America to be. The largest Socialist Nation on the planet. They do not love or admire the America of Independence and Individualism that our Founders provided.............


21 posted on 07/04/2008 7:27:31 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran.........)
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To: Cincinatus
the author is basically saying that conservatives yearn for a past America, once great but now in decline, while liberals yearn for an ideal America, one coming if only they obtain control.

No one who quotes adolescent jerkwaters like Beinart should be taken seriously. You are right, this is a whitewash for liberals who see America as raw material for their leftwing project, nothing more.

As Hillary Clinton once said, "I will pledge allegiance to the United States that could be." But she would do to the US what she did to Billyboy. Thanks but no thanks. I want no part of that rancid version of "patriotism."

22 posted on 07/04/2008 7:28:48 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: vietvet67

Yes, Rats love the pantry... it’s starvation they deplore... too many words here, my FRiend...
With the libs, they want to take over the pantry...
The Conservative Cat, on the other hand, protects the pantry.. let the Rats get their own place to devour each other..$Soros$, Ried, Klintoons, OOOmama, rinos, etc...I just don’t want them in my life...what they “love”... well, I really don’t care...
Yes, I would buy a car from them... but I would “deal”...


23 posted on 07/04/2008 7:29:01 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: vietvet67

Old time liberals like FDR surely loved America, but the modern variety does not. Modern liberals regard themselves as above mere loyalty to country. They regard themselves as world citizens and their goal is a worldwide leftist one-party state.

They see the West in general and America in particular as a barrier to that, and they seek the destruction of these nations. The chosen method is multi-culturalism and Cultural Marxism, in which the founding populations of these nations are constantly browbeaten with charges of racism, sexism, homophobia, intolerance, xenophobia, and so forth, until the people no longer regard their nation or civilization as worth defending. The only value we’re allowed to have is “tolerance” for other people’s values. The only way to absolve our nations of the evil they represent is to become multi-cultural and ultimately to concede the territory to other peoples.

This is the liberal goal, the destruction of the “evil” West, and it’s been in full swing since the sixties. Each year it advances a bit further and each year a cherished tradition is torn asunder by some demand from people who not only didn’t create our nations, but couldn’t have.


24 posted on 07/04/2008 7:35:58 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
” Liberals, “love” America the way an abusive spouse “loves”.

Precisely! One doesn’t express love and affection by constantly punching and kicking the supposed object of that love and affection. The author’s got one thing right though; at least half of this country is schizophrenic and it’s not the conservative half.

25 posted on 07/04/2008 7:39:50 AM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: vietvet67
ummmmmmm.... NO!!!
26 posted on 07/04/2008 7:43:06 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Exactly!


27 posted on 07/04/2008 7:59:37 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: vietvet67

I can find common ground with a lot of people as long as they understand that free enterprise, a strong military, and as little reliance as possible from government are the cornerstones of this country. Coupled with a moral system that is derived from a Judeo-Christian ethic. That’s all. It seems too many libs think that a European kind of socialist society with a dedication to hedonism for all is the way to go. It’s not my way.


28 posted on 07/04/2008 8:09:06 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: vietvet67

This guy is somewhat crap filled. Liberals feel no gratitude for the sacrifice of anyone. They feel envy toward people that accomplish worthy goals. They undermine the efforts of all who perform selfless acts. Liberals look the gift-horse straight in the mouth, pick up the nearest club and smash him in the teeth. Ingratitude and envy are the hallmarks of the unstable liberal stuck in a state of arrested mental development. The actions and thinking of the liberal justify their feelings of worthlessness, that in reality, describes most liberals on welfare and the ones in the workforce that do a half-assed job at any task.


29 posted on 07/04/2008 8:09:48 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: AnAmericanMother
"no Irish"

Well actually I saw a photo of one of those signs in a history book about the Irish in America. It was a advert for some kind of job and the last line said No Irish Need Apply.

30 posted on 07/04/2008 8:12:04 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: vietvet67

The secular humanist progressives hate America because of its Judeo-Christian values and principles and want to change America and convert it to Humanist values. The Marxist progressives also hate traditional American values and want to change America to socialism and eventually to Communism. Both want to weaken America as much as possible to make it possible to create a one world state that is based on either Humanist or Marxist principles.


31 posted on 07/04/2008 8:14:42 AM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: AnAmericanMother

‘That “No Irish Need Apply” sign never existed.’

It was “No Micks Need Apply” and “No Micks On the Grass.”

The signs never existed, because you say so?


32 posted on 07/04/2008 8:14:55 AM PDT by abclily
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Liberals do not love. They don’t even like themselves. Mostly they dislike or hate.


33 posted on 07/04/2008 8:18:56 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your analogy captures it perfectly. I’ll try to remember it for future use.

I guess Rick Moran is trying to be fair to liberals but the fact is that they’re aligned with an ideology that is explicitly anti-American and it shows. Liberals are dilute leftists, which unfortunately means liberals are dilute anti-Americans. Granted it’s a continuum and your average liberal doesn’t hate America like a full-blown lefty does, but the tendency is still there.

Also, to say that liberal anti-Americanism is really just patriotic criticism is to give liberals way too much credit. If their criticism were designed to point America back to its founding principles, this would be true. But that’s not the nature of their criticism. The principles liberals love are those of the New Deal and the Great Society, not the Constitution and the Declaration. They criticize America because it’s not the European style soft-socialist welfare state they wish it were, which is not exactly patriotic.


34 posted on 07/04/2008 8:41:14 AM PDT by Yardstick
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I've seen that advert too. It is not authentic.

Here's a learned article on the myth of "NINA" in America:

"No Irish Need Apply" - a myth of victimization

My daughter took a history course on the Irish in America, and that's what her prof. said (she attends a conservative college with a strong academic program). I got curious and started investigating myself, and while you can find all sorts of mock-ups from the music hall, movies, and so forth, you can't actually find a contemporary example that was actually posted in somebody's window.

The article explains the origin of the story, and why it was popularized.

35 posted on 07/04/2008 9:48:05 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: rrrod

The author asked the question...

“But does this mean that liberals are less patriotic than conservatives?”

YES YES YES YESSSSSSS


36 posted on 07/04/2008 11:03:01 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: vietvet67
No!

Liberals are now clamoring for change. The change they want is to change the freedom loving America into a Euro nanny state.

They look at the socialism of Europe and wet their pants with a passion to duplicate it here. That means eliminating all the vestiges of Christianity and personal responsibility. Especially young women who shun marriage look for a government to provide the crutch they know they must have to “have it all”

They feel guilty when their liberalism is attacked and create all sorts of rationalizations to prove their loyalty. They are not loyal however because the country they crave doesn't exist in America.

They are pacifist. They hate the concept of war because it conflicts with the basic premise that all people are good. They will not agree that some are evil because evil doesn't exist.

Liberals are not Americans, they are Euro wannabe’s. Some Democrats are waking to that realization, but being Democrats, poorly educated and generally lazy, they look past the liberalism to the promise of pie in the sky. Liberals and their propagandists are a greater enemy than Al Queda and the terrorists.

37 posted on 07/04/2008 12:35:46 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: abclily
Not because I say so, but because I've investigated the question at some length (see above).

I'm as Irish as they come, at least on my dad's side (Scottish on the other), and I married a man whose grandfather came off the boat from Cork.

38 posted on 07/04/2008 12:49:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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