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For More Americans, Retirement Can Wait
Newhouse News ^ | 6/23/2008 | Ted Roelofs

Posted on 06/24/2008 1:47:23 PM PDT by Incorrigible

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All indications are that Baby Boomers (in general) have NOT saved enough for retirement.

 

1 posted on 06/24/2008 1:47:23 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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If this nation takes another giant leap into socialism I'm retiring no matter what.

No more busting my butt just to drag along the wagon-load of freeloaders.

2 posted on 06/24/2008 1:50:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Incorrigible

Not here. In four years, one month, we are out of the “Northeast Cesspool of Libs” and heading for greener pastures and early retirement. Now we just have to figure out where the greener pastures are....


3 posted on 06/24/2008 1:52:35 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Obamamaniacs idiot's one and all !)
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"They are people who, when they first retire, there are no major expenses. Then the car starts to break down, the house needs a new roof".

You mean life goes on? Perish the thought!

4 posted on 06/24/2008 1:52:35 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: BenLurkin

No more busting my butt just to drag along the wagon-load of freeloaders.
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Exactly. Me too. That is why I AM RETIRING in about 4 months!! We Boomers are the leading edge of what will happen the generation that is our children. Socialism will drain them of any ambition and initiative and many will just lay back. That is usually the death of socialism, because it cannot pay for itself.

It destroys the productivity of those that the socialist leaders think are going to pay for it, just like The Obamination, who thinks the top 3-4% of wage earners are going to fund his WORKERS SOCIALIST PARADISE of kept souls who will not pay ANY taxes....It has, and always will be, self-defeating. Just ask Russia, France and Germany.


5 posted on 06/24/2008 1:56:57 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Incorrigible

I like my job as much as Teddy Kennedy likes his.


6 posted on 06/24/2008 1:57:07 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Incorrigible
All indications are that Baby Boomers (in general) have NOT saved enough for retirement.

Retirement is OK for a while, then most people wind up dying early while in retirement. Retirement basically means your done, used up, basically good for little.

I don't mind working, as long as I call the shots, take time off when I like, and don't have some no nothing 30 year olds around me.

7 posted on 06/24/2008 2:07:14 PM PDT by dragnet2
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I am a Boomer, 61 and will not retire. My savings were okay, I just hadn't planned on a wife going nuts and abusing our son!

Once the divorce is finally in place, I will have a modest home with a 30-year mortgage and a son to get through high school and college...and an ex-wife to provide alimony to for another 10 years or so.

As Von Moltke, The Elder once said, "No plan survives contact with the enemy!"

Semper Gumby!

8 posted on 06/24/2008 2:11:25 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: dragnet2

Know nothing too!


9 posted on 06/24/2008 2:13:50 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Redleg Duke
Divorces are expensive...BECAUSE THEY ARE WORTH IT!!!

Alimony is an archaic practice. It dates back from the days when women couldn't support themselves. Time for family court to SCRAP alimony. Child support is one thing, but giving alimony payments to an able bodied woman is RIDICULOUS!

10 posted on 06/24/2008 2:14:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Redleg Duke
I am a Boomer, 61 and will not retire.

Hanging around the home 24/7 get very old, very quick. And unless you have a million laying around to travel on...Well, it gets old.

Not only that, I traveled all over when I was younger. I hate hotels, and living out of a suit case. And now with the punitive air travel it's like visiting a high security prison. I have absolutely little desire left to travel anywhere except for short trips where I can drive myself.

11 posted on 06/24/2008 2:20:05 PM PDT by dragnet2
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My target income in retirement is $7000 a month for the two of us. If SS is still around, it'll just be gravy, but it's not part of my calculation. Plus, the house will be all paid off and there are no other debts. I think we'll be able to manage.
12 posted on 06/24/2008 2:45:51 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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Not only that, I traveled all over when I was younger. I hate hotels, and living out of a suit case. And now with the punitive air travel it's like visiting a high security prison. I have absolutely little desire left to travel anywhere except for short trips where I can drive myself.

That's about the way I look at it, although I don't hate hotels as much as you do. 17 years as a C-130 loadmaster took me all over the world. I've literally got years in hotels and billeting. And I also detest flying today because of the crap and boarding gate Nazis you have to deal with.

13 posted on 06/24/2008 2:49:31 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Redleg Duke

Hang in there, Redleg. I won’t be able to retire either...I’m 7 years younger than you, and son # 2 just turned 6. By the time he makes it through college, I’ll be a septuagenerian...but a young septuagenerian at that.


14 posted on 06/24/2008 2:52:36 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (John McCain is Lucy, McCainiacs are Charlie Brown, and the football is a secure border.)
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To: Incorrigible; abb; Milhous; SierraWasp; tubebender

Too many of the Boomers and my generation, the forgotten generation didn’t pay attention to their retirement investment programs and let others shred their savings under the guise of managing their money.

Many got wiped out or suffered large losses during the Clintoon bust in his last year. Or they believed the bs the sellers of retirement plans were pushing re “Follow your dreams!”

Others didn’t listen to reason and logic and loaded up their 401k’s and Iras with the stock of the company they worked for. When their company did an Enron, they took severe hits in their retirement savings plans. The losses from these hits will never rebound and in most cases will only get worse.

As many retirees and early buyout guys/gals don’t change their lifestyles when they retire. They keep their same expensive cellphone, upgrade their computers, buy the big screen HDT tvs, get the most expensive satellite or cable system and become the sugar daddy/mommy for their adult kids.

After a year or two, they have burned through their savings and can often be in bad financial situations. We know of many who refied their homes for a luxury car, cruises for their families and them or buying a larger home with no children at home in expensive closed gate communities. They bought the biggest and most expensive SUV’s or luxury cars they could get credit on. Now many of those people are maxed out on their credit cards and not making their high mortgage payments. Most of the time the job market is really brutal for these dreamers.

Another factor with women is their possible longevity. Many in their 60’s have Mothers alive or who lived until their late 80’s or 90’s. So many of these women with the long life family genetics are saying no to retirement. Their employers are wisely letting them work full time or 2-3 days a week. This gives them something to do and with a purpose, money to spend for them and their grandkids and not having to listen to their husbands, who retired and never grew after retirement.

My wife is in great health and at 68 has zero plans to retire. Her employer, a boomer doctor, took early retirement and came back after 9 months to pay the bills and to get back to being busy. His wife’s dad is 96 and still working, taking cruises and enjoying his young 80 something second wife, who owns her own realty company and works 3-5 days a week.


15 posted on 06/24/2008 2:53:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Kerry was a Uber Liberal, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas makes Kerry look like Jesse Helms!)
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To: dragnet2

Retirement is OK for a while, then most people wind up dying early while in retirement. Retirement basically means your done, used up, basically good for little.
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Depends on the person. I don’t feel “good for little” at all. I found I don’t need a job to feel a sense of self worth. I keep busy, have time for almost all that needs to get done, have time for my loved ones, my pets, my health.
When I worked I had no time for anything even putting off doctor and dental visits, was exhausted at the end of my 11 hour day as a dept. head and never truly got away from the job. I’m not dying at all. I’m living for the first time in 40 years. Corporatations will kill you a lot faster than retirement.


16 posted on 06/24/2008 2:54:00 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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Depends on what you do.

I don’t work for a corporation, never have, never would...I don’t have a boss, and I am basically self employed, and contract with others if it works for me. Keeps me sharp, makes money, is interesting, plus I have time for whatever.

I much prefer working 2 to 4 days a week. Retirement is not for me.


18 posted on 06/24/2008 3:29:13 PM PDT by dragnet2
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And I also detest flying today because of the crap and boarding gate Nazis you have to deal with.

Testify! I loath going to airports.

19 posted on 06/24/2008 3:30:57 PM PDT by glorgau
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When I retire in a year, I'm gonna turn Democrat and yell, holler and scream to my new buddies at the AARP "Where's my money?".........

Won't make much sense to keep on paying maximum SS payments, increased taxes because of income, increased capital gains taxes, etc....

Actually, I'd never do that, but it is nice to think about sometimes. What I'll do when the increased taxes come is to reduce the percentage of work time enough so that the time off vs. income after taxes is maximized....

20 posted on 06/24/2008 3:38:19 PM PDT by Gaffer
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