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We're not going to pay AP's extortion fees and we're not going to allow them to control free speech!
Recent AP vs fair use threads ^
| June 17, 2008
| Jim Robinson
Posted on 06/17/2008 1:23:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: ShadowAce
Thanks for the ping. My first thought was that this was so outrageous that it was satire. But then I saw who posted the article. This is nuts.
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:50:16 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It's a SOCON Site.)
To: RonDog
So, we will just use other sites that do not charge and the end result will be that the AP control will slip.
There are ways around this. We are not required to use the propaganda issued by the AP. And now that we are charged for it - we just won’t use it. There are plenty of other newsgathers around.
We can, through the internet, access foreign news sites, local news sites. So, this may just force us to go to more direct sources for our discussions.
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:51:38 PM PDT
by
ClancyJ
To: Jim Robinson
Sorry I posted that AP article. I didn’t see this until it was too late.
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:51:46 PM PDT
by
Las Vegas Ron
(Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
To: knews_hound
BEWARE OF LIBERAL BIAS AGENDA
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:52:07 PM PDT
by
Wolverine
(A Concerned Citizen)
To: Borges
Virtually all breaking news is on AP first. It takes a while for other sources to put their stories up.Not necessarily true.
As a concrete example...
Last Tuesday, June 10th, our city had its biggest residential fire in history.
Having a police scanner going, I could report the progress of the fire, the extent, the number of alarms, etc, within seconds of their occurence on a live FR thread.
Three hours later, the AP had better check their copy and make sure they didn't have the identical 5 words, or 7 or 12 in any of their reports --- stand alone or as part of a larger paragraph.
You know, that could be fun!
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:52:46 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
To: VOA
The polar bear story following the front page story about Guantanamo and the poor prisoners in a 2-3 page spiel mean I am cancelling my subscription to the Ft. Worth Star Telegram
Why should I pay for that trash to come into my home. I can’t trust anything they say.
The only thing I will miss are the sale ads and I will have to access the internet shopping sites to get those.
246
posted on
06/17/2008 3:54:23 PM PDT
by
ClancyJ
To: ClancyJ
Are you with the AP? NO, I am just a guy that thinks if someone produces something and they want to get paid for it or their bosses to get paid for it, its okay. If people do not want to pay the price (as is the case with this AP post) then AP will not have their article on this site, that is their (the APs) business decision as it is Jims decision not to pay it. This is the American business way, people produce something, and their customer either pay for it or they do not.
To: RonDog; snugs; Kaslin; daisyscarlett; Wolfstar; STARWISE; retrokitten; Netizen
Looks like the AP is also forbidding us from using their photos. LOL
The AP has just sent a cease and desist letter to Brian C. Ledbetter telling him to stop using their copyrighted images on his website, snappedshot.com.
Insane.
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:54:39 PM PDT
by
silent_jonny
(Part of me is intrigued and the other part is disgusted at the part that is intrigued.)
To: SF Republican; NoGrayZone
When you go out to buy a car, why do you pay for it? The guys on the assembly line that made the car have already been paidYou pay the dealership that bought the car from the manufacturer.
Unless Oprah has bought the car, and wants to give it to you for free.
If a newspaper pays for an AP feed, and then puts the story on the internet free, that newspaper is doing the same thing Oprah did. Buying the product, and then giving it away.
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:55:20 PM PDT
by
fanfan
("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
To: AppyPappy
"If you really want to screw them, just summarize the article."
I think AP is after blogs. I don't consider this a blog.
Just wondering how Drudge and others get around this?
To: ClancyJ
I wonder what happens when the AP picks up a story from a local news source.
Now that AP has reprinted it, how much do we owe them?
To: Jim Robinson
Please do not post any AP material to FR excerpted or not.AP's latest action indicates that the Fair Use law does not apply in their case. By not posting AP excerpts, you apparently concur. Isn't that true?
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:58:13 PM PDT
by
Rudder
To: Jim Robinson
Bravo Zulu JR !
How are other sites like Drudge taking this new extortion effort ?
AP just nailed their coffin lid on IMO !
Stay safe , hope your feeling better Sir !
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:58:21 PM PDT
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
To: SF Republican
What about using their hard work? You would know nothing about the situation if you had not read it there. Are you to get it free?
It could be that soon libraries will be out of business. Wouldn’t want people reading articles for free - they might quote them in a school report or some other travesty.
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posted on
06/17/2008 3:58:42 PM PDT
by
ClancyJ
To: Jim Robinson
255
posted on
06/17/2008 3:59:02 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: fanfan
I understand your point but I do not know copyright laws, if I went out and bought a book - do I have the right to publish it on the Internet for free?
To: ClancyJ
What about using their hard work? You would know nothing about the situation if you had not read it there. Are you to get it free? - I disagree, I did not read any AP article, I have read Jims statement and am responding to that. Jim willingly put that out there for free.
To: Dog Gone
I declare that no one may take a picture of my house, my car, or my dog. If you agree to a license fee of $1 million dollars, Ill let you do it, but if I dont like the picture you took, Ill revoke the license.So do I get a refund of my licence fee?
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posted on
06/17/2008 4:02:21 PM PDT
by
fanfan
("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
To: Jim Robinson
AP New York - The Associated Press vowed to cannabalize itself today by charging money for its moronic propaganda.
Laughter could be heard throughout the blogsphere as everyone discovered they missed nothing the AP might scribble.
The AP reportedly asked a nickle for its thoughts from Jim Robinson, owner of the Free Republic. “I found none so I kept my nickle,” said Robinson.
Meanwhile, AP could be seen cavorting in the Le Brea tar pits with umbrella in hand, should the forecast of raining asteroids prove right.
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posted on
06/17/2008 4:03:19 PM PDT
by
sergeantdave
(Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
To: gunnedah
Lets just bill them $15.00 for every article that shows up on our computer.Er, AP owns the rights to the following words: "just", "them", "for", "that" and "on"
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posted on
06/17/2008 4:03:50 PM PDT
by
lowbridge
("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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