Both, it appears.
this guy messed up by allowing his children to be taken without a court order...they would need sheriffs and guns to take my children from my house, and then the basis for a lawsuit would be there from the beginning.....and never do anything they tell you without a court order and your lawyers advice...child protective services are nothing more than petty beaurocrats hungry for power ( power against the evil man, never aginst the woman )
That isn't consent. This pervert can't be trusted with children.
Keep in mind that the viewpoint of the ACLU is that anyone should be able to do anything sexually with anyone else, regardless of age and sexual procivities, unless any small woodland creatures are involved. The ACLU has taken this case to have a go at the state's rape laws. They don't give a damn about this man's status as a father.
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I’ll save my outrage for a father who isn’t humping the 16 year old baby-sitter. And I suspect there’s more to the story. The children were living with him when this was going on, and I wonder who was caring for them while he was running around with a 16 year old (actually a 15 year old, since according to HIS version of the story they didn’t actually do the deed until she turned 16, but were already “involved” enough that he was seeking information on when it would be legal). Their mother has been in a psych hospital for the past 4 months, and didn’t have custody of the three young children at the time the case was opened, suggesting that serious mental illness has been present during the entire relevant time period, so if he was leaving them with her, knowing that she was seriously mentally ill, that would be a serious problem. And I’m not seeing any mention that his parents, with whom the state has placed the children, are supporting him in this lawsuit.
The ACLU is pro-pervert. Even if it was technically legal for a 27 year old man to have sex with a 16 year old girl, it was a moral crime. Not only should this man lose any contact with his children, he should be in prison for at least 20 years.
Tyranny of the state is more likely.
A “brief consensual” relationship sounds more like the 16 year old girl snuck in with a fake id to a tweenager bar and got picked up.
“Mr. Doe had a brief, consensual relationship with a 16-year-old girl”
What is the age of consent in PA? This could be the reason the state took his kids.