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1 posted on 06/12/2008 3:10:55 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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and we should take this on faith why?
2 posted on 06/12/2008 3:13:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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So a man who could be President of the United States is running his campaign thru the Kos Kids Moonbats?????????

Wow, how embarrassing. And how unserious this man/boy is behaving.

3 posted on 06/12/2008 3:13:30 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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Why dinn’t Obama’s campaign offically release it? Why is there no stamped seal on it? I don’t know if there is anything here, but there are better ways to put out fires than secretly slipping stuff to the Daily Kooks.


4 posted on 06/12/2008 3:16:37 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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Obama’s mama’s name was Stanley Ann Dunham?


6 posted on 06/12/2008 3:18:59 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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There is NO WAY this is real!

Look at the quality of the document itself, this is a newly generated electronic paper, NOT the original!

Plus, look at the question: FATHER'S RACE

WHY? Why would it ask for race at all?? MINE sure dont!

7 posted on 06/12/2008 3:20:39 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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This is not an original. Look at the paper stock description in the lower left. Of course, it could be a state issued one that is legitimate but generated more recently.


8 posted on 06/12/2008 3:21:01 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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That`s a COPY, possibly FAKE.

Barry Hussein must

release a copy of the original BC to prove he is American.


9 posted on 06/12/2008 3:21:29 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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The only plausible reason for the certificate number being BLACKED OUT is that this is a photoshop of someone else’s certificate, and of course that PERP doesn’t want their number immortalized on the Internet. Plus it would make it easy to request a verfication letter of the info on that number.


15 posted on 06/12/2008 3:26:35 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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Barak Hussein Obama sounds pretty un-american to me.

He was BORN A MUSLIM too.

27 posted on 06/12/2008 3:32:55 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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Love to see what a Birth Certificate from 1961 vintage looks like. Gettting to see one would end speculation as to what is on Obama’s certificate.

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33 posted on 06/12/2008 3:36:33 PM PDT by ncfool (Hopefully we will see the birth certificate. Obama the Manchurian Candidate .)
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Not that it matters for purposes of addressing Geraghty's concerns, but Flip notes that the posted document is a certification of birth, which is slightly different from a birth certificate.

How? I looked at the three documents for my family. Mine says "Certificate of Birth". My wife's says "Certificate of Live Birth", which I guess means that mine could be a certificate of dead birth. My daughter's says "Certificate of Live Birth" as well, and both her's and mine were issued by the same state, Illinois, though decades apart. Do none of those qualify as birth certificates?

I would say that in this Hot Air is full of hot air.

35 posted on 06/12/2008 3:38:02 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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What state was mccain born in??
38 posted on 06/12/2008 3:38:36 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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Of course, a serious presidential candidate would have distributed this to the NYT, AP, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WaPo. Not an internet BBS.

-PJ

42 posted on 06/12/2008 3:41:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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I'm calling bullshit on this one until proven otherwise. No name of attending physician, no name or location of medical facility, no height or weight of the referenced larvae, and the list goes on. I had to get a copy of my birth certificate from The People's Republic of Maryland a few years ago, and it included everything but a stool sample. That thing is akin to getting one of those credit card mailers that enclose a generic card with 'John Q. Public' embossed on it.


48 posted on 06/12/2008 3:43:52 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak and Michelle: The Sheik and The Freak.)
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OKAY PEOPLE LET ME PUT THIS ALL TO REST:

BARRY WONT RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE BECAUSE IT LISTS HIS RACE ON IT. AND HIS RACE IS LISTED AS “WHITE”. IN THE 60’S AND 70’S HOSPITALS WOULD ALWAYS MAKE THE BABY’S RACE THE SAME RACE AS THE MOTHER.


58 posted on 06/12/2008 3:49:11 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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Has anyone run this past Dan Rather?


60 posted on 06/12/2008 3:49:27 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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re: my postst above, *I* am the idiot. The statute that applies reads: 8 § 1405. Persons born in Hawaii
How Current is This?
A person born in Hawaii on or after August 12, 1898, and before April 30, 1900, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900.


74 posted on 06/12/2008 3:56:47 PM PDT by piytar
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WHY does this come to mind every time I come across a POST DEFENDING Hussein Mohammad OsAMA!!

"Today’s Guardian reports that Barack Obama is setting up an entire unit to combat ‘virulent rumours’ about him on the internet.”

DON'T BE FOOLED!!

106 posted on 06/12/2008 4:19:23 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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Is this the standard format of birth certificates in Hawaii in '61? I'm a family research buff so I have seen many birth,death and marriage certificates from many decades (1880's to today) and from many states and one thing even the very old ones feature is "place of birth" for both the father and mother.

Very strange,IMO.

109 posted on 06/12/2008 4:23:21 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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Ok, I just confirmed (straight from the horse's mouth) that current issues certified copies of HI birth certificates have both a stamped signature AND a RAISED EMBOSSED SEAL on them.

BUT... they are on the BACK! I'm told that you should be able to see the embossed seal from the front, since it is fairly deep.

110 posted on 06/12/2008 4:24:21 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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