[WarEagle]

Birmingham has hundreds of neighborhood associations that vote down every new corporate development...which is why Mercedes, Honda, Toyota, Kia/Hyundai and others have all located near, but outside, the city limits.

Tell me about it. NIMBY was invented here, particularly in Homewood and Mountain Brook, in the 1950s, and NOT in California.

The 280 corridor is a real case in point - the NIMBY voters will probably manage to block every solution until Shelby County growth is choked, when the traffic gets so bad nobody wants to deal with it in any form.

[Southack]

Shelby County drivers need access to I-459 *other* than 280...that choke point is about all that is stemming the population hemoraging from JeffCo into Shelby.