Posted on 05/04/2008 7:18:36 PM PDT by RDTF
Where’s PETA during the running of the bulls in Spain? The ONLY reason PETA makes nosie is because they’re tolerated.
Simple as that.
I’ll admit they have some decent fillies in their stable but-I learned a long time ago not to try to ride a crazy horse.
What, they think this guy doesn’t already feel like sh*t? Nothing like kicking someone when they’re down.
do you speak from knowledge or just speculation? Many that have knowledge (and common sense) know this is was no usual incident.
Very well put, thank you.
"No lie about not caring for people. In 2003, Newkirk hectored late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat because a terrorist blew up a donkey in an attempt to blow up people. Newkirk also told the New Yorker the world would be a better place without people. She explained why she had herself sterilized: "I am opposed to having children. Having a purebred human baby is like having a purebred dog; it's nothing but vanity, human vanity."
Another freeper posted an prerace article by a sports reporter who was concerned that Eight Bells was too lightly raced to take on the Derby, and predicted tragedy.
I’m not a PETA lover, but if the horse was abused, I’d like to see some consequences. Perhaps the racing fraternity should take this on.
I’ll see if I can find it.
Horseracing is an extremely dirty business. I’d look to see how much insurance there was on the horse.
Here it is. It was written by a racing reporter, so I wouldn’t lightly discount it.
By the way, what the heck was done to the search? All the posts are all jumbled, ones from 5 years ago listed before yesterdays. I wouldn’t have been able to find it if I hadn’t bookmarked it.
Someone believes Eight Belles never had a chance to get through it uninjured:
Kentucky thoroughbred racing columnist Paul Moran, April 30, 2008, wrote the following column:
“Where are the animal rights activists when you need them?
Eight Belles was entered in the 134th Kentucky Derby on Wednesday. Success would demand that she run 10 furlongs faster than 19 males. There is the most remote possibility that she will succeed, this covered by one of life’s immutable truths: Anything can happen in a horse race.
What is far more likely is that Eight Belles will be permanently scarred by the experience.
Three fillies have won the Derby, in 1915, Genuine Risk, Genuine Risk, in 1981, and Winning Colors, whose victory will mark its 20th anniversary on Saturday.
Regret, though she was generally unsound, was an extremely fast filly whose regularly defeated males. But Genuine Risk and Winning Colors were nothing like Eight Belles. Both were big, rugged fillies who competed against males on even physical terms. Winning Colors defeated males in the Santa Anita Derby before the Derby. Genuine Risk prepped for the Derby in the Wood Memorial, in which she finished third.
Eight Belles has nothing in common with those fillies.
She is, however, a beautifully conformed filly, light-framed and feminine. Her misfortune is not trainer Larry Jones, who skirts the issue uncomfortably. A trainer who criticizes the decisions made by an owner will not be training for long. Though he came here a year ago with Hard Spun, who was runner-up to Street Sense, Jones shows no symptoms of Derby fever and he seems uncomfortable discussing Eight Belles’ chances in the Derby. Owner Rick Porter, however, is apparently beset by Derby fever.
Unlike the three fillies who have won the Derby, Eight Belles has never faced males nor has she attempted a race beyond 1 1/16. She has won her last four races, one in New Orleans, three in Arkansas but none in Grade I company. She would be formidable in the Oaks on Friday, in which Jones has Proud Spell for more reasonable, less vain connections who are probably concerned with the welfare and well being of their prized filly.
There is no reason beyond vanity to run Eight Belles in the Derby, either. As a breeding prospect, her value may be increased but a broodmare can produce only one foal a year. Breeders found it almost impossible for Genuine Risk to conceive and Winning Colors has had no impact as a broodmare.
The only thing that might have saved Eight Belles from the cruelty she is about to endure was a poor post position but the draw put her connections sixth in order of selection, assuring a favorable position in the barrier a day after she drew the outside post in a field of 12 entered in the Oaks. She will face the firing squad from post five.
Porter has enjoyed great success, having owned the very good filly, Jostle, a Grade I winner in 2000, Round Pond, winner of the 2006 Breeders’ Cup Distaff and Hard Spun, who he sold for an enormous amount of money last year. Porter should know better. He should also show a bit of compassion for a very nice, still developing filly who, if he sends her into the teeth of a buzzsaw on Saturday, may very well leave he career in the shadows of the twin spires. If so, it will be a sad, sad day. –PM
I hope PETA understands that. I think the jockey should be investigated just to make sure that he didn't push her to the breaking point. If nothing foul or sinister happened, then PETA should be quiet and move along.
I am surprised that this story didn’t say that it was Bush’s fault since the Liberals seem to think everything else that’s going wrong in America is Bush’s fault.
We have been over this ground before on another thread. You made no response to my posts at the time explaining how the stewards have had more than ample opportunity examine the many yards of tape made from every possible angle at every moment of that race. They also have heard from the vets who already examined the legs of the mare.
Please tell us all about what further investigation you think there could be and by what mechanism you imagine a jockey could conceivably break two ankles while he was sitting in the saddle.
These people are lunatics, and should be ignored by normal people.
"This is Christian4Bush, reminding you to help control the PETA population; have your PETA spayed or neutered."
/channeling Bob Barker
Or that it was due to global warming...
An American Mother is a very experienced horsewoman who owns a Thoroughbred mare herself. I am a former professional horsewoman who has experience with racehorses, managed a training facility for racehorses, and now enjoys retraining retired racehorses for hunting or dressage as a pleasure rather than a profession. I too own a Thoroughbred mare, hence the screen name OTTBMare. We are speaking from knowledge, not speculation. How about you? What are you credentials, and what international-caliber trainers did you study with?
"Many that [sic] have knowledge and common sense" know that breakdowns like this happen far more often than the general public is aware. The public only hears about it when it happens in a Triple Crown race.
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