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1 posted on 04/30/2008 2:56:00 AM PDT by Stoat
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Good, let him keep whining. At the top of his stupid voice.


2 posted on 04/30/2008 2:59:26 AM PDT by Misschuck
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4 posted on 04/30/2008 3:04:45 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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The definition of "smug" is right here.

Rev. Wright at the National Press Club (1 of 3)

10 posted on 04/30/2008 3:20:34 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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Barack Obama Pastor Jeremiah Wright is anti American Racist
11 posted on 04/30/2008 3:21:29 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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Obama Does Not Know If He is Saved By Christ
12 posted on 04/30/2008 3:23:13 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: Stoat
Very interesting.

If this is an elaborate song and dance to help out Obama, as some seem to think, then it seems like a very stupid one. I'm inclined to take this article at it's face value.

In relation, has anyone heard anything in regards to this little nugget at The Corner? Very interesting too, if true.

14 posted on 04/30/2008 3:26:17 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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I can’t wait until Reverend Wright comes out and says, “Barack praised me after I gave the speech on ‘God Damn America.’ He came up to me afterwards and thanked me personally.”

What Obama doesn’t understand is that Reverend Wright holds any chance he may have of ever being president in his hands.
Obama is a novice politician. Sure, he can deliver a rehearsed speech well, but that isn’t the stuff of real politics. Politics is about remembering who your friends are, and where the bodies are buried. Obama never learned that lesson in politics, unlike the Clintons. Obama has played the dozens with a man who can destroy him. He’s given Reverend Wright every reason to now.


16 posted on 04/30/2008 3:29:12 AM PDT by counterpunch (John McCain for President - Because we need VICTORY in Iraq, not RETREAT)
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Da Rev-rind Jeremiah Wright... useful idiot for Operation Chaos..

Just keep talking rev-rind.


17 posted on 04/30/2008 3:29:16 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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How Christian is this? Revenge?

You know, I actually felt sorry for Obama yesterday, like I did for Bill Clinton the day Monica story broke. Then I remembered what Obama thought about me and what he was planning to do to me and my family and the country and I thought 'God works in mysterious ways'.

27 posted on 04/30/2008 3:50:33 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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Something smells rotten in the Hood.

All this fussing and fighting between Obama and Wright seems contrived.

One of two things is going on here:

** Either Obama and Wright are hoaxsters
or
**Hildabeast and Bubba have given Wright some baubles to make an idiot of himself at Obama's expense.

Why would a righteous pastor take money from his flock to build a million dollar mansion when there are so many poor Black people that he could help? Not to mention the fact that his flock looks to be middle class families who could use their money for their own children.

Wright is a fraud.

And, I know Obama hasn't been baptized a Christian.

28 posted on 04/30/2008 3:50:53 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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It just doesn’t get much better than this.


31 posted on 04/30/2008 3:54:09 AM PDT by Aussiebabe
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It’s great to see the light of truth illuminating darkness.

All the little furry creatures and insects are fleeing the light.


39 posted on 04/30/2008 4:25:24 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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Great thread here. I tend to shy away from conspiracy theories -though there are some interesting coincidences in this entire scenario with Obama and Wright..

Here’s something to add from the Campaign Spot

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/

Obama Suddenly Objects To Wright Being Called His ‘Spiritual Mentor’

Barack Obama, today:

I know that one thing that [Wright] said was true, was that he wasn’t — you know, he was never my, quote-unquote, “spiritual adviser.”

He was never my “spiritual mentor.” He was — he was my pastor. And so to some extent, how, you know, the — the press characterized in the past that relationship, I think, wasn’t accurate.

If the press mischaracterized that relationship, such as in this Chicago Sun-Times profile of Obama from April 5, 2004, it is mysterious as to how the press got that idea, considering how the article’s portrait of Obama’s faith, and its description of his relationship with Wright, appear to be based on an interview with Obama.

Still, Obama is unapologetic in saying he has a “personal relationship with Jesus Christ.” As a sign of that relationship, he says, he walked down the aisle of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ in response to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s altar call one Sunday morning about 16 years ago.

The politician could have ended his spiritual tale right there, at the point some people might assume his life changed, when he got “saved,” transformed, washed in the blood. But Obama wants to clarify what truly happened.

“It wasn’t an epiphany,” he says of that public profession of faith. “It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.”

These days, he says, he attends the 11 a.m. Sunday service at Trinity in the Brainerd neighborhood every week — or at least as many weeks as he is able. His pastor, Wright, has become a close confidant.

... Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says.

“I always have felt in him this consciousness that, at the end of the day, with all of us, you’ve got to face God,” Pfleger says of Obama. “Faith is key to his life, no question about it. It is central to who he is, and not just in his work in the political field, but as a man, as a black man, as a husband, as a father.... I don’t think he could easily divorce his faith from who he is.”

Another person Obama says he seeks out for spiritual counsel is state Sen. James Meeks, who is also the pastor of Chicago’s Salem Baptist Church. The day after Obama won the primary in March, he stopped by Salem for Wednesday-night Bible study.

If the relationship between Wright and Obama has been mischaracterized, it is interesting that this is, to the best of my knowledge, the first time Obama has complained about the way it has been described in the press.

Another reference: Jodi Kantor, in the New York Times, March 6, 2007: “The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., senior pastor of the popular Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago and spiritual mentor to Senator Barack Obama, thought he knew what he would be doing on Feb. 10, the day of Senator Obama’s presidential announcement.”

UPDATE: The Rolling Stone profile that persuaded Obama to disinvite Wright from that announcement:

This is as openly radical a background as any significant American political figure has ever emerged from, as much Malcolm X as Martin Luther King Jr. Wright is not an incidental figure in Obama’s life, or his politics. The senator “affirmed” his Christian faith in this church; he uses Wright as a “sounding board” to “make sure I’m not losing myself in the hype and hoopla.” Both the title of Obama’s second book, The Audacity of Hope, and the theme for his keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in 2004 come from Wright’s sermons. “If you want to understand where Barack gets his feeling and rhetoric from,” says the Rev. Jim Wallis, a leader of the religious left, “just look at Jeremiah Wright.”

Obama wasn’t born into Wright’s world. His parents were atheists, an African bureaucrat and a white grad student, Jerry Falwell’s nightmare vision of secular liberals come to life. Obama could have picked any church — the spare, spiritual places in Hyde Park, the awesome pomp and procession of the cathedrals downtown. He could have picked a mosque, for that matter, or even a synagogue. Obama chose Trinity United. He picked Jeremiah Wright. Obama writes in his autobiography that on the day he chose this church, he felt the spirit of black memory and history moving through Wright, and “felt for the first time how that spirit carried within it, nascent, incomplete, the possibility of moving beyond our narrow dreams.”

Obama has now spent two years in the Senate and written two books about himself, both remarkably frank: There is a desire to own his story, to be both his own Boswell and his own investigative reporter. When you read his autobiography, the surprising thing — for such a measured politician — is the depth of radical feeling that seeps through, the amount of Jeremiah Wright that’s packed in there.

04/29 06:21 PM


40 posted on 04/30/2008 4:26:12 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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Will have to wait for a response or non-response from Wright. Obama neither denounced or repudiated Wright.

However Wright saying “If Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected. Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls.” is not good for Obama.


41 posted on 04/30/2008 4:38:40 AM PDT by igoramus08
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Interesting. What kind of ministser thinks it is only about HIM and not about his the betterment of those to whom he ministered.

Seems like there is a lot of excess arrogance on the RAT side of this campaign (starting ,of course, with the always above any law-— Clintons).


42 posted on 04/30/2008 4:57:32 AM PDT by rod1 (uestion)
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And thus, the worm turns... onto the other worm. ;)


44 posted on 04/30/2008 4:58:42 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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I can’t wait to hear stories about Obama from Rev Wright..


47 posted on 04/30/2008 5:21:07 AM PDT by Fawn (Judge Judy Rules.)
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Gadzooks! I just shouted "Jeremiah... you go, girl!" at the TV!!!!


51 posted on 04/30/2008 6:41:27 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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Another black on black assault. White people aren’t the problem, y’all.


56 posted on 04/30/2008 7:12:10 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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58 posted on 04/30/2008 7:56:25 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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