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To: curiosity

Curiosity raises an interesting point - he says simply that it’s not unreasonable for IDers to provide the proof. OK, what about your fossil records?

Watch the documentary and watch Prof. Dawkins spew his anti-religious bigotry.

Mind you, I don’t care what you believe. I have some atheist friends who I talk “philosophy” with all day long.

Also, There’s no chance whatsoever that Darwin saw an “evolution” of a species after on a few years - I’m talking about the birds on the island (I forgot the name of the island). Biological evolution doesn’t happen over the course of 36-48 months.

Yours truly,
The Woim


138 posted on 04/28/2008 3:26:26 PM PDT by The Woim (Agitating for social change also means fighting to abolish the Dept of Education)
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To: The Woim
Curiosity raises an interesting point - he says simply that it’s not unreasonable for IDers to provide the proof. OK, what about your fossil records?

What about them?

Watch the documentary and watch Prof. Dawkins spew his anti-religious bigotry.

Dawkins' personal opinions on a matter unrelated to his research has no bearing on the merits of his research. And it's his discoveries in the field of zoology, not his anti-religious ravings, that got him his academic position. If you read his academic papers, there's no mention of religion.

Mind you, I don’t care what you believe. I have some atheist friends who I talk “philosophy” with all day long.

I'm a practicing Catholic, FYI.

Also, There’s no chance whatsoever that Darwin saw an “evolution” of a species after on a few years - I’m talking about the birds on the island (I forgot the name of the island).

Of course not. What he found was evidence that suggested a hypothesis to him, for which he found more evidence. After his death, still more evidence validated parts of this hypothesis, and caused other parts to be modified somewhat. But in general the weight of the evidence is strong enough to have caused the hypothesis to graduate to become a working scientific theory.

But it's still a theory that is open the challange. The only problem is that if you want to challange it, you have to produce some evidence, which ID advocates have yet to do. Refusal to take seriously vacuous, evidence-free challanges to a theory can hardly be considered "censorship."

160 posted on 04/28/2008 4:00:42 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: The Woim
Also, There’s no chance whatsoever that Darwin saw an “evolution” of a species after on a few years - I’m talking about the birds on the island (I forgot the name of the island). Biological evolution doesn’t happen over the course of 36-48 months.

Of course not. The HMS Beagle only spent 5 week in the area. Neither Darwin nor anybody else claimed he observed evolution!

The Galápagos Islands consist of 22 main islands spread over 28,000 square miles.
Charles Darwin found roughly 13 different types of finch populating it, and he went about collecting the new (to him) specimens for later classification. But after his return to England, ornithologist John Gould told him that the finches were not, as Darwin had supposed, members of several widely different families, but all belonged to one family now known as the Geospizinae.

That's when it clicked that the birds became isolated on their individual islands and had adapted to their local environment.
It is the classic example of "Adaptive Radiation", a process of evolution in which variations of a single species fill different niches and eventually become new species.

199 posted on 04/28/2008 5:20:14 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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