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A Blood Libel on Our Civilization. Can I expell Expelled?
National Review Online ^ | April 28, 2008 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 04/28/2008 12:01:40 PM PDT by Delacon

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To: Non-Sequitur

Did they forget the BBW*
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(Big Breasted Women) ;’}


21 posted on 04/28/2008 12:21:34 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: DoughtyOne; Anitius Severinus Boethius; All

“Wow, such a negative reaction. I think I’ll go see the movie.”

I haven’t seen the movie and I won’t. I haven’t seen “An Inconvenient Truth” either but I have to be one of the biggest skeptics and poster against global warming on FR and for many of the same reasons. Like global warming alarmism, ID is anti-science. Derbyshire is a smart guy, he has done the research on ID, he doesn’t have to go see a Goreish/Mooreish film.


22 posted on 04/28/2008 12:22:18 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon

I always ask myself two questions about atheists:

1. What effort did he/she make to determine whether God exists?

2. Was there something that he/she wanted so badly and felt was so urgent and obviously right that, when the desire went unfulfilled, he/she conceived a violent hatred for the one Being of all beings who could and should (in their eyes) have fulfilled it?


23 posted on 04/28/2008 12:22:28 PM PDT by scory
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To: Delacon
It not pro-creationism. It's anti-evolution-establishment.

His whole point in the movie was to ask why people lose their jobs when they question evolution--not even propose creationism, but merely question evolution.

He ought to go see the movie before writing about it.

24 posted on 04/28/2008 12:23:02 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

So, uh, you think the movie is making money?


25 posted on 04/28/2008 12:23:25 PM PDT by Shryke
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To: Delacon

I’ve not seen the movie either, and based on what I know of it have no desire to. It’s sad to see Ben Stein, who’s been very funny at times, involved with such an intellectually bereft effort.


26 posted on 04/28/2008 12:23:35 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Delacon

I feel the same way as Derb. Was always a big fan of Ben Stein, and then this craziness. He just believed whatever people who he wanted to believe told him without checking it out.

For ex, he fell for Carolyn Crocker, who claims she was fired from George Mason U for her scientific dissent. But she wasnt. She had a part time contract. It wasnt renewed. So where is she now? Teaching fulltime in another branch of the higher ed state system.

If Ben had tried to confirm her story, he would have found out that she was looking for a sap who would fall for her victim schtick.


27 posted on 04/28/2008 12:23:39 PM PDT by freespirited (Michelle Obama says the U.S. is "just downright mean." That must be why our poor people are fat.)
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To: Delacon

Derb also said that, while believing in God would be unacceptable to him, believing in leprechauns wouldn’t present a problem for him (seriously).


28 posted on 04/28/2008 12:23:42 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: rockrr
Obeyme

I like that, it fits.

29 posted on 04/28/2008 12:24:22 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Delacon
No, I haven’t seen the dang thing

So, darbyshire, why critique the dang thing? Easy $$$$ ? or just easy pickin's.

30 posted on 04/28/2008 12:24:31 PM PDT by pilipo (I am officially a man without a country.)
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To: darkangel82
In other words, he’s a huge RINO

You couldn't be more wrong. Derb is a paleocon who happens to be a big fan of math and science.

31 posted on 04/28/2008 12:25:10 PM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Cicero
He is saying that academics have gotten so bigoted and intolerant that they simply will not allow any diversity of opinion or arguments with their beliefs.

As evidenced by this hateful, vicious, condescending article.

32 posted on 04/28/2008 12:26:13 PM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: Delacon
Our scientific theories are the crowning adornments of our civilization, towering monuments of intellectual effort, built from untold millions of hours of observation, measurement, classification, discussion, and deliberation. ..... Simply as intellectual constructs, our well-established scientific theories are awe-inspiring.

And should , therefore, never be questioned!! -- (how UNscientific is that???)

Just two words should suffice as a critique regarding the infallibility of our "well-established scientific theories" --Global Warming

One word should sufficiently describe the esteemed writer who doesn't bother to see the documentary he pans -- Buffoon

33 posted on 04/28/2008 12:27:15 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Non-Sequitur

Good. I’ll get a good seat.


34 posted on 04/28/2008 12:28:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is a poison pill. Accept it! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006492/posts)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I saw it this weekend. It's good. The evo's hang themselves with their own words. When Dawkins finally had to admit ID, he said it was space aliens. I guess Jesus has been called worse.

I think some of the points Ben made were more important than evo or ID. He brought out the evo beliefs that made NAZIism possible and eugenics that came from Planned Parenthood. If their is no God, then why is murder bad? If their is no God, what is sinful and who gets to decide? This encompasses much more than the drone of discussing Thermodynamics and such.

He also makes the point that the tolerant, free speech Nazi's in college are the first to put you in the intellectual gulag. If we can talk about space aliens as a theory, why not a designer in places of higher learning? Their reaction is telling.

35 posted on 04/28/2008 12:29:06 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast

Highly evolved aliens “planted” single celled life forms on a beatiful planet perfectly situated not only in its solar system, but in relation with its moon, its perfect location in the right kind of galaxy, etc.

WHY NOT PLANT SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE “EVOLVED”?


36 posted on 04/28/2008 12:29:50 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Cicero

what you said.

The movie isn’t “pro-Creationist”.

It’s an expose’ of the tactics used by evos to keep out any sort of questioning of their doctrinal orthodox religion.


37 posted on 04/28/2008 12:31:25 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Delacon

Two knuckle deep nose picker lost me right here: “So what’s going on here with this stupid Expelled movie? No, I haven’t seen the dang thing.”

Everything after that means he is talking out his bum. If he wanted to write about the movie, pro or con, he should have seen it. Mr. Derbyshire is all liberal in this one. CLUELESS.


38 posted on 04/28/2008 12:31:37 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Delacon

LOL, I really get a kick out of folks who are so afraid of something they think can’t be substantiated. If you’re right, why sweat it?

As for an inconvenient truth, I’ll admit it sure takes faith to believe. I haven’t seen it either. I’ve seen one of Moore’s movies, ‘Roger N Me’.

I thought it was tongue in cheek at the time, but Moore has outed himself for the numb nut he is.


39 posted on 04/28/2008 12:32:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is a poison pill. Accept it! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006492/posts)
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To: aruanan

He’s using the typical leftist/atheist tactic of

“proof by arrogant condescension”


40 posted on 04/28/2008 12:32:40 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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