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Search Is On For Cruise Ship Passenger Believed To Have Fallen Overboard Near Cozumel, Mexico
FOX ^ | 04/23/08 | Unknown

Posted on 04/23/2008 11:51:44 AM PDT by Froufrou

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To: inflorida

I’m just wondering if a plausible scenario is: drunk leans over rail to barf, ship hits a swell in the “right” direction, drunk takes a high-dive.


21 posted on 04/23/2008 12:03:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I have a related question: how high are the railings? Are they high enough to keep you from going over the side if you have to, ahem, toss your cookies overboard?

Yeah, you'd have to make a concerted effort and be "in the right frame of mind" in order to get over them. There's no, whooops, I've fallen overboard possibility. They've got them idiot proof, just not drunken idiot proof.

22 posted on 04/23/2008 12:04:06 PM PDT by Sax
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; trumandogz

23 posted on 04/23/2008 12:04:28 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: 1rudeboy

I can’t imagine anyone tumbling overboard by just leaning over to puke after a night of drinking. I suspect the drunken overboards are from as said earlier, the King of the World move or sitting/standing on the railing.


24 posted on 04/23/2008 12:06:20 PM PDT by inflorida
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To: The Right Stuff
I have always wondered about this. Would you get churned up by the prop or would you survive long enough to be treading water (for hours?).

You probably would not get into the prop. Yes, somebody could tread water or do a survival float for some time. How much time depends on the water temperature. It's hypothermia that's the real killer.

In warm water it might be many hours, but in northern, cold water, it's probably only measured in minutes. Even in warm water though, after some number of hours exhaustion will eventually do the job. Everybody is different, but without a float device I don't know if many people could survive more than a day, even doing a survival float. That and the odds of finding somebody in a search area that large are just abysmally small.

25 posted on 04/23/2008 12:07:32 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: trumandogz

I think this is good reason that we install SEAT BELTS on these cruises from Cozumel.


26 posted on 04/23/2008 12:07:55 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: The Right Stuff
"I have always wondered about this. Would you get churned up by the prop or would you survive long enough to be treading water (for hours?)."

Good question. I guess you could get caught up in the props if you fell over the side toward the front and slid underneath the hull. But most probably just left behind in the lonesome and deep sea with the critters.

27 posted on 04/23/2008 12:10:12 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

Hey, maybe he is treading water out there. There’s alway’s hope.


28 posted on 04/23/2008 12:10:49 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: rovenstinez
I went on a cruise once and hated every moment of it. The food was not all that great, every “activity” was lame and every five minutes some other passenger was handing me his business card.
29 posted on 04/23/2008 12:12:23 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: 1rudeboy

“I have a related question: how high are the railings?”

I don’t know what the actual rule is, but I am sure they are at least 4 feet high. Mid-chest or so.


30 posted on 04/23/2008 12:12:28 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Tex Pete

I also love cruises. I was on the Victory in December on 2006 and the Valor December of 2007. I cruise alone so I make sure I stay sober. I think in alot of these cases the victim is drunk. This is interesting because on a cruise site I go to a poster was complaining about the railing and the regular posters tore her a new one.


31 posted on 04/23/2008 12:12:55 PM PDT by TrishaSC
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To: 1rudeboy
It could be that the poor drunk was badgered by his over-served wife to the point that he decided to swim home, so to speak.
32 posted on 04/23/2008 12:14:12 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: TrishaSC
I think in alot of these cases the victim is drunk.

You might be on to something there.

33 posted on 04/23/2008 12:16:22 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: BunnySlippers
Almost all of these cases involve alcohol.

..and sex. Reemember the couple about a year ago that were having sex on their balcony railing and fell off? They picked them out of the water ahem..sans clothes.

34 posted on 04/23/2008 12:17:45 PM PDT by am452 (In order to ensure the quality of your patriotism, your conversation may be monitored.)
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To: The Right Stuff
In April 2003, a passenger fell of a the Carnival Celebration, and survived in the water for 17 hours before being rescued by a cargo ship.

Several others listed here were rescued. I just remember hearing about the above incident because I cruised on the same ship in '05.

http://www.cruisejunkie.com/Overboard.html

35 posted on 04/23/2008 12:19:13 PM PDT by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
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To: Froufrou

Is it true that sharks have changed their age old migration routes to now follow the cruise ships?


36 posted on 04/23/2008 12:19:57 PM PDT by Roccus (Who hired Craig Livingstone? After 15 yrs, we still don't know.)
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To: Froufrou
“...trying to do the “I’m the king of the world” thing from Titanic.”

On the two cruises I've been on, passengers are prohibited from the bow of the ship. Some may allow you up there though.

37 posted on 04/23/2008 12:23:42 PM PDT by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
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To: lesser_satan
I find it hard to believe he just fell off. Probably had a big life insurance policy and his wife pushed him. Or he was drunk and trying to do the “I’m the king of the world” thing from Titanic.

Back in my Navy days, we once got a sailor and his rescuer, both sober, in Sick Bay to get them physically checked out and warmed back up after one of them had fallen off the ship and the other sailor had heroically dived in to save his buddy from Davy Jones' Locker.

The rescue would have been even more impressive if our ship hadn't been moored to the pier at the time.

38 posted on 04/23/2008 12:25:04 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Roccus
Is it true that sharks have changed their age old migration routes to now follow the cruise ships?

LOL I think that is as funny as the sharks following the slave ships. The last cruise I was on I thought they said all food materials & sewage were put in large holding comntainers and pumped back out at the dock. I think at one time they would pump sewage overbaord but I don't think it is allowed any longer.

39 posted on 04/23/2008 12:26:12 PM PDT by am452 (In order to ensure the quality of your patriotism, your conversation may be monitored.)
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To: Froufrou

I have been on the Victory twice. Not that easy to fall over. I am guessing it was mega-alcohol assisted. There are people who essentially retire onto cruise ships and seem to not fall over despite decades of 52 weeks/per year of cruising.


40 posted on 04/23/2008 12:28:23 PM PDT by rod1 (uestion)
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