Posted on 04/23/2008 12:56:28 AM PDT by kingattax
Hillary Clinton declared the tide is turning Tuesday after scoring a critical victory in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary, pushing the race ever forward to the nine remaining contests.
With 99 percent of precincts reporting, Clinton had 55 percent and Barack Obama had 45 percent, a comfortable enough margin to deny critics their demand that she quit the race.
Some counted me out and said to drop out, Clinton told cheering supporters at a rally in Philadelphia. But the American people dont quit. And they deserve a president who doesnt quit either.
Having already locked down the Republican nomination after the March 4 primaries, John McCain easily coasted to victory in Pennsylvania Tuesday, pulling 73 percent with 98 percent of precincts reporting.
Clinton beat Obama in the Keystone State primary with a big boost from her core constituencies, including lower income and union households, but she also ended up overperforming among some groups that are Obama strongholds, including college-educated voters and last-minute decision makers.
Pre-election surveys cast Clinton as the favorite in Pennsylvania, but she was under pressure to win big in the state. Trailing Obama in pledged delegates, shes trying to win over uncommitted superdelegates by arguing that shes more electable against McCain in a general election. A big win in Pennsylvania helps strengthen her argument that she is dominating in large swing states critical to Democrats in November.
Hillary has won all the states we have to win in the general election, Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe told FOX News after the race was called, touting the fact that Clinton won Pennsylvania despite being largely outspent in the state by Obama.
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“So far Hillary has won every battleground state that the Dems must sweep to win next November, NJ, OH, PA, TX, CA, plus FL and MI, if you count those.”
Irrelevant. They are competing against themselves. Doesn’t mean squat since they are running against a Republican in November.
“This is a game where—no matter which party wins—the country loses. Don’t be part of it.”
Right. Why not let another Ginsburg on the courts? Maybe they can name an abortion clinic after Mrs. Clinton since she would be the one to change SCOTUS.
But then, you wouldn’t complain because you chose to stay home.... right?
Hillary and Obama are far more than a “little bit worse” than McCain. It’s the difference between the flu and the Ebola virus.
It’s not irrelevant. If the Dems nominste Obama a fair number of older, moderate Hillary voters will vote for McCain. Not most, but enough to tip the outcome.
Op Chaos is group insanity.
I'm not so sure that it's irrelevant. There is a lot of vitriol amongst the two camps. I think yesterday's race was particularly remarkable: at this point, Clinton has basically no chance of winning the nomination. Yet she won PA by double digits, even though primary voters tend to vote for the established leader. I think Clinton's win was really interesting, and it shows how much Clinton supporters really don't care for Obama.
The real question is how many Clinton supporters dislike Obama enough to pull the lever for McCain in November. Could be an important factor.
If it's a proportional state, and Clinton won 55% of the vote, howcome and whyfor doesn't she get 55% of the delegates?
e.g. Philadephia will have more delegates than York, PA
BUT my answer may be skewed since I'm not a politician nor have I ever been more than a poll book holder for a campaign in small town Indiana.
Didn’t you read the stats? Blacks will vote for EITHER Obama OR Hillary in the fall, while disgruntled Hillary primary voters will NOT vote for Obama if he is the nominee in the fall. This is not a good result; vampires don’t die without a silver dagger to the heart. PA had the chance to kill this vampire off, but chose not to do so.
The good news is that I was at two early meetings this morning, and several people I thought were independent or leaning Democrat as voters were talking about how we can NEVER elect sHrillary as President. I kept my mouth shut, but inside, I was jumping with glee!
Good to hear, thanks
Yes. General Officers wearing makeup under the new Arrirmative Action for Transgendered Servicepeople program.
can you imagine what the general officer makeup will end up being like under either of those two
I see. The carrot of 'safety' entices you and keeps you following the party line.
You've heard it said, 'what good is freedom if we're all dead?', well, what about 'what good is being alive if we're all slaves?'
John McCain is what a Democrat was only 5-6 years ago. In fact, there may be Democrats more conservative than he. For God's sake, he buys into 'Global Warming'. That acceptance alone gives government carte blanche rationale to strip us of all our liberties, in the name of 'saving the world'.
Oh, and the whole amnesty deal. Forgive and forget, huh?
Yes there is a huge difference. But, a 'flu' passes and one returns to health. The globalist, open-borders, global warming, big-government, nanny-state disease that the Republicans have just gets worse and worse until death.
Early in the primary season, if I'm not mistaken, the vast majority of Freepers surveyed (something like 70%) said John McCain was untenable as a candidate and President and that they wouldn't vote for him. How soon they waffled!
Some of them probably ARE racists.Hillary Clinton is a lying, gun grabbing,identity politics promoting,pro affirmative action Leftist.
Sort of like Barak is.
But she IS white.
It would make a mockery out of their service
It may not bother you but it would me
Is the Constitution a mockery?
Holding Constitutional democratic elections where any candidate (now typically only one of two parties) has a chance of winning would make a mockery of their service?
Then declare the Constitution dead and worthless if we can't hold free and fair elections without worrying that one party is the enemy and having to use our vote to prevent them from gaining power.
The idea of a representative republic is that elected officials represent the views/values of their voters...NOT that they represent a 'least evil'. This system of government is dependent on voters voting for politicians to REPRESENT them, NOT to vote for the second-most evil candidate who's likely to win. The Constitution looks like it has already failed if people are playing games with the formerly reverent act of voting.
Why don’t you ask the mothers and fathers and the wifes and husbands etc etc of the military if they want Obama or Hillary as CIC
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