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To: Colonel Kangaroo

And you are sadly misinformed and under educated. It was the CSA that reinforced the Constitution, the advice of Thomas Jefferson and many other early patriots.

Lincoln was at the mercy of usual suspects, the railroad and banking magnates and their desire for encompassing power over the existing and future states.

And, I STILL really don’t care who fathered Abraham Lincoln.


58 posted on 04/22/2008 11:11:04 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
And you are sadly misinformed and under educated. It was the CSA that reinforced the Constitution, the advice of Thomas Jefferson and many other early patriots.

Too bad Davis didn't see fit to be bound by the reb constitution when push came to shove. Talk was cheap when it came to the Confederates.

Lincoln was at the mercy of usual suspects, the railroad and banking magnates and their desire for encompassing power over the existing and future states.

And Davis was at the mercy of people who believed that humans as property was a good thing and their desire to spread slavery over the existing and future states.

70 posted on 04/22/2008 1:00:11 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: varina davis
...the advice of Thomas Jefferson...

Thomas Jefferson sure didn't see eye to eye with the Confederates.

It was Lincoln who was the disciple of Jefferson, not the Confederates who rejected all that Jefferson stood for.

The new constitution [Confederate States of America] has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted.

The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery -- subordination to the superior race -- is his natural and normal condition.

This, our new government,[Confederate States of America] is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

-- Alexander Stevens, Vice President, Confederate States of America.

75 posted on 04/22/2008 7:25:48 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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