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To: DelphiUser

Delphi, the people who are hopping on to this FLDS mess and using it to smear the Mormon church are the same people who hijacked every Mitt Romney thread to smear the Mormon church.

It takes a particularly vile person to attack another’s religion the way these people do. And there is a nest of such vile people on FR, unfortunately. That’s why I quit donating.

You can’t reason with them. If you try in good faith to explain things, they ignore your valid points, twist what you said, and end up arguing with straw men.

Pearls/swine.


22 posted on 04/21/2008 8:01:24 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
Pearls/swine.

Lipstick/pig

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39 posted on 04/21/2008 8:13:22 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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To: lady lawyer; DelphiUser
It takes a particularly vile person to attack another’s religion the way these people do. And there is a nest of such vile people on FR, unfortunately. That’s why I quit donating.

Why are you attacking others as being "vile?" (Doesn't that, then, by your own standard make you guilty of what you accuse others of being?)

45 posted on 04/21/2008 8:18:14 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: lady lawyer
U Said: Delphi, the people who are hopping on to this FLDS mess and using it to smear the Mormon church are the same people who hijacked every Mitt Romney thread to smear the Mormon church.

It takes a particularly vile person to attack another’s religion the way these people do. And there is a nest of such vile people on FR, unfortunately. That’s why I quit donating.

You can’t reason with them. If you try in good faith to explain things, they ignore your valid points, twist what you said, and end up arguing with straw men.

Pearls/swine.


I understand your point, I just can't stand to sit by and be slandered, so I fight on, besides except for their religion fetish some of the anti's are good conservatives in other ways, of course there are some who only come here to bash...

It's good to see that you are still around, your logic and cool head have been missed.
47 posted on 04/21/2008 8:18:50 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: lady lawyer; DelphiUser; Colofornian; greyfoxx39
It takes a particularly vile person to attack another’s religion the way these people do. And there is a nest of such vile people on FR, unfortunately... You can’t reason with them. If you try in good faith to explain things, they ignore your valid points, twist what you said, and end up arguing with straw men.

IN THE FREEPER COURT

OF PUBLIC OPINION

RELIGON DIVISION

 

 

LADY LAWYER

                                                                        )

                        Plaintiff,                                  )

                                                                        )           No. 4:23CV2008

v.                                                                     )

                                                                        )           JURY TRIAL DEMANDED

UNNAMED FREEPER SWINE                  )

                                                                        )

                        Defendants.                            )

 

 

DEFENDANTS UNNAMED FREEPER SWINE MOTION FOR MORE DEFINITE STATEMENT IN RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFF’S COMPLAINT

 

COME NOW Defendants Unnamed FReeper Swine (“FReeper Swine”) and move this Court pursuant to Rule 12(e) of the Federal Rules of FReeper Procedure for a more definite statement of Plaintiff’s Complaint.  Defendants FReeper Swine need a more definite statement so that they can understand and accurately respond to Plaintiff’s allegations.  Specifically, FReeper Swine are entitled to a more definite statement that clarifies:  (1) which of FReeper Swine statements are alleged to attack another’s religion “the way these people do”.  2) Which of FReeper Swine are alleged to be a “vile person” and 3) Which “vile” FReeper Swine are alleged to dwell in nests.

I.
LEGAL STANDARD

A complaint must plead facts sufficient to (1) put the defendant on notice of the claims alleged against it, and (2) reasonably permit the defendant to respond to the allegations.  Darwin Inc. v. Creation Specialty Co., 322 FR. Supp. 2d 260, 265 (E.D.N.Y. 2004).  Under Rule 12(e), “if a post to which a responsive post is permitted is so vague or ambiguous that a poster cannot reasonably be required to frame a responsive pleading, the poster may move for a more definite statement before interposing a responsive post.”  FR. R. Civ. P. 12(e).  Despite the liberal pleading requirements under Rule 8, “[a] motion for more definite statement is proper when a poster is unable to determine issues he must meet, or where there is a major ambiguity or omission in the complaint that renders it unanswerable.”  restornu. v. Religion Mod., No. 4:06CV01117 RWS, 2006 N&A 3210497, at *4 (E.D. Mo. Nov. 3, 2006) (citing Tinderbox v. Flame War Asbestos Underwear Dist., 207 FR. Supp. 2d 951, 959 (E.D. Mo. 2001)).  Ultimately, an accused depraved and wicked ought to have “sufficient knowledge of the facts alleged to enable it to answer the complaint and defend itself.”  AntiPhonometrics, Inc. v. Hospital Barf Alert Franchise Sys., 203 FR.3d 790, 794 (Fed. Cir. 2000).  For this reason, the pleading requirements are intended to “permit the court and the litigants to know, at the pleading stage, who is being complained about and the grounds for same, thereby facilitating the just, speedy, and inexpensive determination of the action.”  Bay at the Moon., Inc. v Decaf Mfg., LLC, No. 06-C-1010, 2006 WL 3469599, at *3 (E.D. Wis. Nov. 29, 2006).

).

II.
DEFENDANTS FREEPER SWINE ARE ENTITLED TO A MORE DEFINITE STATEMENT DESCRIBING WHICH OF THEIR NUMEROUS POSTS OVER THE YEARS ARE ACCUSED OF VILENESS AND WHICH POSTER ARE ALLEGED TO DWELL IN NESTS.

In the Motion for More Definite Statement, Original Defendants allege that the Complaint provides absolutely no indication whatsoever as to which statements made by Defendants actually give rise to the allegations of turpitude.  The Original Defendants also correctly noted that Plaintiff fails to identify the specific claims of wickedness Original Defendants’ statements are alleged to violate. 

Likewise, Plaintiff’s claims in its Amended Complaint of Wickedness against Defendant FReeper Swine fail for the same reasons.  Similar to the Original Defendants, FReeper Swine make, and over a decade covered by the statements made, have made countless statements.  Plaintiff’s allegations give FReeper Swine (and the Court) no clue as to which statements are subject to Plaintiff’s allegations.  Plaintiffs’ Complaint simply reads that FReeper Swine “attack another’s religion the way these people do. And there is a nest of such vile people on FR”, etc.   See First Amended Complaint, ¶¶ 27, 32.  In order to answer Plaintiffs Complaint, Defendants would be forced to evaluate each and every one of their statements over the years against each of the various claims of post #22, and determine which ones cames from nests.   This task is entirely unmanageable and unduly burdensome.  As such, FReeper Swine are entitled to a more definite statement. 

Under Rule 8, Plaintiff has the simple burden of identifying specific turpitudous posts.  If Plaintiff has a good faith basis that actual turpitude occurred, it can surely identify the posts which supposedly are terpitudous.   

            Plaintiff identifies no specific statement or post  by FReeper Swine at any time that infringes any identified claim in controversy.  See First Amended Complaint.  As such, FReeper Swine request the Court to order Plaintiff to provide a more definite statement for the same reasons set forth in Original Defendant’s Motion for More Definite Statement, referenced and incorporated herein.

III.
CONCLUSION

For the foregoing reasons, Defendants are entitled to a more definite statement and respectfully requests that this Court require Plaintiff to amend its Complaint (1) to specifically identify the statements and FReeper Swine that Plaintiff is accusing of turpitude in #22,  2) Which of FReeper Swine are alleged to be “vile”” and 3) Which “vile” FReeper Swine are alleged to dwell in nests.

 

Dated:  April 23, 2008                                            Respectfully submitted,

 

 

Diamond                                                                     

 

SOVEREIGN,  GRACE & MERCY L.L.P.

1776 Calvin Dr.

Arminius, Texas 75503

(666) 794-HELL (telephone)

(666) 79H-ADES (facsimile)

 

 

266 posted on 04/23/2008 10:11:43 AM PDT by Diamond
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