Skip to comments.Public pool bars father and son from its 'Muslim-only' swimming session
Posted on 04/18/2008 9:39:25 AM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast
A father and his five-year-old son were turned away from their local swimming pool because they were the wrong religion.David Toube, 39, and his son Harry were told that the Sunday morning session was reserved for Muslim men only...
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I have been to public pools that bar certain people at certains times of the day or certain days of the week for various reasons. I don’t see the big deal here.
He should have just said, “What makes you think I’m not a Muslim” and gone on in.
“I have been to public pools that bar certain people at certains times of the day or certain days of the week for various reasons. I dont see the big deal here.”
Yeah, for swim teams or lessons or birthday parties...but because of a religiously backed reason? Now if their mosque rented the pool out, etc that’d be one thing. But Muslim-only time? What’s that? From the article:
“His explanation was that it was a requirement of the Muslim religion that Muslims could not swim with non-Muslims.”
This is a public-freakin pool. If you don’t want to swim with non-Muslims go elsewhere.
Of course, you have to ask yourself the question: Do you really want to swim with muslims? Just damn...
Hackney Council, which runs the Clissold Leisure Centre in Stoke Newington, north London, claimed staff there had made a mistake.
However, the Muslim-only session was advertised on its website.
Mr Toube, a corporate lawyer, described his experiences on a blog.
"I arrived at the pool to discover that they were holding what staff described to me as "Muslim men only swimming"," he wrote.
"I asked whether my son and I could go as we were both male. I was told that the session was for Muslims only and that we could not be admitted. I asked what would happen if I turned up and insisted I was Muslim.
"The manager suggested that they might ask the Muslims swimming if they minded my son and I swimming with them. If they didn't object, we might be allowed in."
A few days later, Mr Toube, who lives with his wife, 38-year-old barrister Samantha, and their two sons in Stoke Newington, North London, spoke to another leisure centre employee.
"He gave me an identical story. His explanation was that it was a requirement of the Muslim religion that Muslims could not swim with non-Muslims."
Mr Toube joked: "I asked him whether Clissold Leisure Centre would institute Whites Only swimming for racists. His answer was that they would if there was sufficient demand."
He added: "I spoke to a number of Muslim friends, and none of them had heard of a religious prohibition on swimming with non-Muslims.
"One friend was so disgusted with Hackney for trying to segregate Muslims and non Muslims that he suggested that he take his little daughter swimming with us, just to prove the point."
However, Dr Taj Hargey, chair of the Muslim Education Centre of Oxford, said it was not true that Muslims could not swim with non-Muslims.
"There is no Koranic verse or any statement from the sources of Islam that says different religions should be segregated," he said.
"The only requirement is that when women swim they should be modestly clad."
The Prophet Mohammed is recorded as saying that it is a Muslim's duty to learn to swim as it could save his or her life.
The swimming sessions for male Muslims were advertised as taking place every Sunday from 8am to 9.30am.
Leaflets stipulated: "It is compulsory for the body to be covered between the navel and the knees.
"Anyone not adhering to the dress code or rules within the pool will not be allowed to swim. All brothers welcome.'
A leisure centre spokesman said staff were wrong to refuse entry to Mr Toube.
He added: "The member of staff the user spoke with at the time was mistaken when referring to the session as Muslim-only.
"The men's modesty session is not a private hire and is, therefore, open to the public.
"Staff cannot ask your religion on entrance and you won't be refused entry if you don't appear to be Muslim."
A spokesman for the Equality and Human Rights Commission said: "Segregating services may amount to unlawful discrimination and could create a sense of unfairness, inadvertently increasing community tension."
So long as we are forced to pay taxes for Government schools there should never be any reason for any taxpayer ban from them.
Or to survive waterboarding.
So what is next? Whites only? Atheists only?
If you do a search on this article’s title, the previous post on the subject doesn’t come up.
You probably won't see the “big deal” when the Call to Prayer resounds from Minarets several times a day and traffic comes to halt as “devout” Muslims scamper out of their cars to pray, or when they force your wife and daughter to wear veils or be treated like prostitutes, or when you can't buy liquor at the local liquor store or bar, or when they kill your pet dog, etc. etc.
What you and the rest of the west feel to realize is that Islam is a cult - a cult with an agenda, a cult which masquerades as a religion when in fact it is a complete totalitarian theocracy which seeks to control and regulate the lives of all its adherents down to last degree and to make life so much more miserable and oppressive for followers of other belief systems that they are forced to become just another Islamic Zombie just to survive.
If the west doesn't wake up our descendants will grow up in a world of violence and oppression and sectarian strive ever bit as primitive as Iraq, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan.
I wonder if they have Christian only days?
wow - I grew up in Texas in the fifties. Big deal about segregation. Most whites were okay with integration until it came to swimming pools. Then polio hit so I didn’t go anyway but sure sounds the same.
You dont know your history. Hitler did the same thing by first banning non-Arians from pools. It is the start of segregation and a step toward the acknowledgment that Muslims are superior to everyone else. The Muslims are slowly tuning up the heat on Sharia Law and slowly making people accept the fact that it is superior. A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.
People still have to go somewhere else to swim, regardless of what kind of group it is. I still don’t see the big deal.
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