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Can Obama change U.S. political map?
politico.com ^ | April 9, 2008 | John Fortier

Posted on 04/09/2008 6:12:35 PM PDT by neverdem

Barack Obama threatens to drive political cartographers crazy. By attracting young people and African-Americans, he believes he can turn red states blue and upend our relatively stable political map. Obama may well win the November election on a wave of Democratic turnout and enthusiasm, but he will likely find that states don’t change their political stripes very easily.

The 2000 and 2004 elections were remarkably similar. Forty-seven states voted for the same party in both elections. Only New Hampshire, which switched from Republican in 2000 to Democrat in 2004, and Iowa and New Mexico, which moved in the other direction, changed sides.

But in a larger sense, the political map has not only been stable in the past two elections, it has also been relatively immune to sudden shifts over the past 60 years. There have been blowout Republican wins such as those in 1984 and 1972, when almost all states voted for the GOP, and in 1964, when the vast majority of states voted for Democrats.

In a recent study of presidential elections since 1944, my colleague Tim Ryan and I found that states’ partisan leanings tend to move with the national popular vote rather than change wildly based on the candidates. Imagine a state that leans 10 percentage points toward a Republican when the national popular vote is 50-50. If a Democrat wins the national vote by 15 points, he or she will likely win that state by 5 points. If a Republican wins the national vote by 10 points, he or she will win the state by 20 points.

There are some exceptions to this rule. The South was particularly volatile before the 1980s, shifting its votes to Republicans, Democrats and Dixiecrats. Presidential candidates can affect the voting patterns of their home states. And states can change their political allegiances over time, but it’s usually through a slow process of political evolution, not a dramatic shift.

There is really only one recent example of a significant map shift that had major consequences: West Virginia in 2000. Prior to the Bush-Gore election, West Virginia had been a very safe Democratic state, voting 3.5 percent to 8 percent over the Democratic national average. In 2000, George W. Bush won West Virginia 53 percent to 47 percent.

In 2004, West Virginia was even more solidly in the Bush camp. If Gore had won West Virginia in 2000, he would have been our 43rd president. In a nutshell, Bush and Karl Rove saw that West Virginia was a heavily white state with socially conservative values and worries that environmentalism might do further damage to the coal industry. In hindsight, this makes perfect sense, but in election after election, both parties assumed this was a safe Democratic state.

So can Obama change the partisan leaning of states in 2008 like Bush did in West Virginia? Probably not.

First, look to the Southwest, which is moving toward Democrats. Over time, Hispanic immigration may move states like Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico into the Democratic column. But unfortunately for Obama, Republicans will likely nominate Sen. John McCain, who hails from Arizona and whose stance on immigration makes him less objectionable to Hispanic voters.

Second, what about the South? Obama has hinted that a rise in black turnout could put Southern states in play. Reliably Republican Mississippi has a population that is close to 37 percent African-American, the highest percentage of any state, but even a huge increase in black participation would not make up for the fact that Bush won the state by 20 points in 2004.

Perhaps the most talked about state that could change its stripes is Virginia. First Mark Warner and now Tim Kaine, both Democrats, have occupied the governor’s mansion. Democrats control the state Senate. In the 111th Congress, Virginia will likely have two Democratic senators. Northern Virginia is trending Democratic, with once solidly Republican Fairfax County voting for John F. Kerry in 2004.

Democrats hope that Obama’s dual pull among African-Americans — who account for about 20 percent of the state — and the young, educated and independent voters of Northern Virginia will turn this state blue. But Bush won Virginia by more than 8 percentage points and more than 260,000 votes in 2004. If the black vote increased by 20 percent, or approximately 140,000 votes, and if Obama doubled Kerry’s margin of victory in Northern Virginia from about 80,000 to 160,000, he would still fall short.

The problem for Obama is that the states with large percentages of black voters or upscale and educated voters are generally states that are not very competitive.

Obama may win Republican states such as Arizona, Colorado and Virginia if he wins the national popular vote by more than 5 percent. But don’t expect him to change the map in a close election.

John Fortier is a research fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: chocolatemcgovern; election2008; obama; pinko; pinkstates; redvsblue; wv2008
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To: GOP_Raider

Good upbringing, reading, and common sense can go a long way toward undoing Socialist indoctrination. Seems to me, you’ve survived the Gulag of “government education”. Congratulations.


21 posted on 04/09/2008 7:04:38 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: neverdem
Barack Obama threatens to drive political cartographers crazy. By attracting young people and African-Americans, he believes he can turn red states blue and upend our relatively stable political map.

The setup is a lie. A few election cycles ago the colors for Republican and Democrat victories were switched. Much of the MSM agreed universally to the change.

So to claim that this is "going to drive political cartographers crazy" is Stalinist revisionist BS.

22 posted on 04/09/2008 7:12:10 PM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: neverdem
It will be me. lol
23 posted on 04/09/2008 7:14:44 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Norman Bates
Is this supposed to pass the laugh test?

McCain, Clinton Win Arizona Primary

"With 81 percent of precincts reporting, McCain had 47 percent of the vote, compared with 34 percent for Romney."

McCain has a talent for making enemies. He wasn't much of a favorite son in the primary if he can't get a majority. I expect McRINO to have large protest votes against him in the Libertarian and Constitution party nominees.

24 posted on 04/09/2008 7:15:54 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Because of Rushs Operaton Chaos many many ugh!.. “democrats” will vote for McQueeq..


25 posted on 04/09/2008 7:56:53 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: neverdem

And to be fair was Romney much of a favorite son in MA where McCain got 41% to his 51% (just 2% more than McCain in AZ)? But I digress...

McCain will win 60% of the vote in Arizona.


26 posted on 04/09/2008 8:03:33 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: neverdem

Listening to his ads on the two radio stations I listen to a lot is proving to be annoying because these kids are young and impressionable and they don’t know what “change” cant be.


27 posted on 04/09/2008 8:31:48 PM PDT by Little_shoe ("For Sailor MEN in Battle fair since fighting days of old have earned the right.to the blue and gold)
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To: neverdem

The ‘rats already have the black vote by 90% or so without even trying - difficult to see how Obama gains anything for them there - shaping up to be another Nixon-McGovern debacle......


28 posted on 04/09/2008 9:05:27 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Ironically, the Democrat Superdelegates were constructed as a way of defeating another McGovern candidacy that the backroom bosses opposed.


29 posted on 04/09/2008 9:31:39 PM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: weegee
Ironically, the Democrat Superdelegates were constructed as a way of defeating another McGovern candidacy that the backroom bosses opposed...this is true, but also ironically they won't dare abort the common man's choice this time around because that choice represents one of the 'rats' most prized wet dreams - a black candidate - and to do so would destroy their shaky coalition for decades........
30 posted on 04/09/2008 9:40:28 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: neverdem
According to a poll released yesterday, McCain leads Obama 48-46 in New York and trails Hillary 48-42.

I don't believe that NY is seriously in play, but Obama is screwed unless people forget Wright.
31 posted on 04/10/2008 8:16:49 AM PDT by rmlew (There is no god but G_d and Moses is his Prophet.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Good upbringing, reading, and common sense can go a long way toward undoing Socialist indoctrination. Seems to me, you’ve survived the Gulag of “government education”. Congratulations.

Thanks! My upbringing wasn't the greatest but I managed to overcome both. Heck, the last time I moved I had a good three or four boxes of books I'd read since I was a teenager. And that's not counting the books I'd let people "borrow" that I never got back...

32 posted on 04/10/2008 3:27:12 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Let's Get Cup Crazy! Let's Go Sharks!)
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To: Patrick1

We can only Hope..


33 posted on 04/10/2008 9:24:44 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (From Kuwait where the Weather is always Partly Sandy!)
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To: P.O.E.

Anyone who even gets close to wishing Obama does well is ignorant of Obama’s leftist radical leanings or is a leftist radical.

He is quite possibly the most leftwing major party nominee ever.


34 posted on 04/10/2008 10:21:41 PM PDT by WOSG (Solve all the world's problems .... Just build more nukes already.)
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To: WOSG

Obama-ism frightens me to no end. The Nuremberg rally-like commercials, the anti-Semitic connections, etc. I was being sarcastic - sorry I forgot the /sarc.


35 posted on 04/11/2008 3:00:00 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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