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Man Charged After Soda Forgotten In Cart
WHIO-TV (Dayton, Ohio) ^ | April 8, 2008 | WHIO-TV

Posted on 04/09/2008 12:05:10 AM PDT by seacapn

BROOKLYN, Ohio -- Have you ever put a case of water or something heavy under your shopping cart and then forgotten about it?

A Cleveland man did, and it landed him in jail, television station WEWS reported.

Tom Sturgis has a long receipt showing the $157.20 worth of two grocery carts full of groceries that he bought at a Brooklyn supermarket Saturday night. After going through the self checkout, Sturgis said he forgot a $4 case of pop under the cart.

(Excerpt) Read more at whiotv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: brooklynohio; dayton; donutwatch; leo; policestate; retail; theft
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Can the state of Ohio really afford to use its police forces to process cases like this, given the state's financial situation? I mean, aside from all the other considerations about whether an arrest was necessary in the first place...
1 posted on 04/09/2008 12:05:10 AM PDT by seacapn
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"It's over a case of pop," said Wendy Sturgis. "He turned around and offered to go back in and pay for it and the cop told him it's like robbing a bank, you just can't get caught robbing a bank and say, 'I'm sorry, I'll give you your money back.'"

Oh, yeah. Got us a real, live Dick Tracy, right here.

2 posted on 04/09/2008 12:07:46 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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The man was still on store property and they charged him with theft?

Zero tolerance policy adherent!


3 posted on 04/09/2008 12:09:06 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Arm yourself!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Just to get this out of the way before the Law & Order Freepers arrive.

“Lock him up, throw away the key. “

“Good thing our LEO Heroes got this Thug off the Streets”

“Today he tried to steal a case of coke but tomorrow he will be dealing kilos of coke to kids in elementary school.”

“The Death Penalty would be to good for this guy. I was we draw and quarter him with four Pepsi Trucks running on high octane Ohio Ethanol.”


4 posted on 04/09/2008 12:16:51 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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“The Death Penalty would be to good for this guy. I say we draw and quarter him with four Pepsi Trucks running on high octane Ohio Ethanol.”
5 posted on 04/09/2008 12:18:16 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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What the story doesn’t say is did he go through a regular checkout line with a cashier or did he go through on of those lemme-stand-here-and get-the-crap-confused-out-of-myself self checkout abominations?

If he went through a regular line, it’s their responsibility to make sure everything was accounted for. Her cryin out loud, it’s not like he had a case of soda stuffed into his coat pocket.

If he went through the do it yourself line, they MIGHT... MIGHT be able to make a case that it was intentional.


6 posted on 04/09/2008 12:26:09 AM PDT by djf
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The man didn’t pay for the soda. You know it isn’t like a bank robber can get caught and say, “sorry, I will return the money”. It isn’t like he is an illegal invader and can be merely sent back (if we are lucky) to try again.

Crossing our borders illegally is illegal. Forgetting to pay for a case of pop is illegal. So can someone explain to me again why the guy couldn’t just give the soda back and try again tomorrow?


7 posted on 04/09/2008 12:27:03 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Don't blame me...............I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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We now live in a society where no one in authority uses their brain and makes a judgement based on the circumstances. Instead it is “zero tolerance” where a computer might as well dish out justice...

If this happened to me, I’d take out a full page ad in the local paper stating what happened and ask people if they want to shop at a place that operates its business that way. I’d make em pay...


8 posted on 04/09/2008 12:36:00 AM PDT by DB
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If the guy was doing the shoping, he may have been thinking about other erands or perhaps some tasks he needed to do at home. It is possible he forgot. How do they know what the intent was?

As other posters stated, where was the box boy or checker here? The idiotic guard should arrest them too, as accomplices. Let’s throw them all in prison Barney Fife.

Oh that’s right, he only had one bullet, couldn’t confront the whole gang.

Sorry, not taking some guy into custody over some soda. Cite the guy if you must, but seriously folks. Cheeze Whiz!


9 posted on 04/09/2008 12:50:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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I would have given this guy the benefit of the doubt and allowed him to go back in and pay for the pop. I myself avoid that problem by going through the regular checkout when I have something heavy on the bottom of the my cart. That way, the cashier can use the hand scanner and I don’t have to lift the item up onto the counter. Every once in a while, being a weakling has its advantages!


10 posted on 04/09/2008 12:58:37 AM PDT by Huntress (“When you have to shoot, shoot, don’t talk.”--Tuco)
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The story continuation states that it was a self check-out. With two carts full of stuff, he must have been half crazed by the time he finished. Easy to miss the soda underneath.


11 posted on 04/09/2008 1:02:47 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: trumandogz
Just to get this out of the way before the Law & Order Freepers arrive.

No doubt. They think all LEOs are saints, even when they act criminally and in violation of the Constitution.

12 posted on 04/09/2008 1:10:57 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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Well, the perfect defense is that the soda was there before he grabbed the cart and it isn't his responsibility to maintain the cleanliness of the store's carts.

And what is 'pop' anyway?

13 posted on 04/09/2008 1:11:52 AM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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Story continuation? It's right there in the excerpt.

After going through the self checkout, Sturgis said he forgot a $4 case of pop under the cart.

14 posted on 04/09/2008 1:20:04 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Ohio’s problem evidently, is they don’t have enough real crimes...

Sheesh, around here you almost need to do a drive-by before cops even look at you.


15 posted on 04/09/2008 1:30:02 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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...$157.20 worth of two grocery carts full of groceries that he bought at a Brooklyn supermarket Saturday night. After going through the self checkout, Sturgis...

...was a complete basket case!

Who goes through a grocery self-checkout with TWO CARTS? This guy is a masochist! He should sue for emotional distress. And how about this: the store has this auto-checkout line so they hire one less cashier, but somebody's got enough time on his hands to observe and bust a distracted, multi-tasking shopper who uses that checkerless nightmare of a system. Are these things the grocery store equivalent to a highway speed trap? Is there a shoplifter quota to fill?

16 posted on 04/09/2008 1:32:45 AM PDT by Ezekiel
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If someone breaks into my car at my house the cops will not come. I have to go downtown and fill out a report but they will send 5 cop cars at a time to a bar to see if anyone is smoking a cigarette.


17 posted on 04/09/2008 1:56:42 AM PDT by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE and the death of freedom)
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To: WildcatClan

“FORGETTING” to pay for the case of pop is not illegal. The crime of larceny requires the specific intent to steal. If he intended to steal the coke and was just pretending to have “missed it”, that’s a different matter.

I tend to believe him, just last week, I forgot I had a case of pepsi in the bottom of my cart, after I had paid for it. I left it in the cart when I drove off and someone got a free case of diet pepsi (AKA nectar of the gods)


18 posted on 04/09/2008 2:43:54 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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I’m amazed they haven’t shown up already, whining that thwe cops are “just doing their jobs”.


19 posted on 04/09/2008 2:54:45 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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If this happened to me, I'd take out a full page ad in the local paper stating what happened and ask people if they want to shop at a place that operates its business that way. I'd make em pay...

I went to the link, and didn't see where they mentioned the name of the store.

The cop was working as a security guard for this store. They may well get some unwanted publicity, now that the story has gotten loose on the net.

20 posted on 04/09/2008 3:08:14 AM PDT by Ken H
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