Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

McCain twice flirted with the Democratic Party
NYT via MSNBC.com ^ | March 24, 2008 | Elisabeth Bumiller

Posted on 03/24/2008 8:15:56 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

WASHINGTON - Senator John McCain never fails to call himself a conservative Republican as he campaigns as his party’s presumptive presidential nominee. He often adds that he was a “foot soldier” in the Reagan revolution and that he believes in the bedrock conservative principles of small government, low taxes and the rights of the unborn.

What Mr. McCain almost never mentions are two extraordinary moments in his political past that are at odds with the candidate of the present: His discussions in 2001 with Democrats about leaving the Republican Party , and his conversations in 2004 with Senator John Kerry about becoming Mr. Kerry’s running mate on the Democratic presidential ticket.

There are wildly divergent versions of both episodes, depending on whether Democrats or Mr. McCain and his advisers are telling the story. The Democrats, including Mr. Kerry, say that not only did Mr. McCain express interest but that it was his camp that initially reached out to them. Mr. McCain and his aides counter that in both cases the Democrats were the suitors and Mr. McCain the unwilling bride.

Either way, the episodes shed light on a bitter period in Mr. McCain’s life after the 2000 presidential election, when he was, at least in policy terms, drifting away from his own party. They also offer a glimpse into his psychological makeup and the difficulties in putting a label on his political ideology over many years in the Senate.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fundedbysoros; mccain; mccainsoros; mccaintruthfile; mcdemocrat; mcsoros; reforminstitute
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-89 next last
Well of course the Slimes has no political motive behind this story; none at all.
1 posted on 03/24/2008 8:15:57 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

As opposed to the times that he got drunk and went home with them?


2 posted on 03/24/2008 8:20:09 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

Well of course the Slimes has no political motive behind this story; none at all.


But it is probably as close to the truth as they have been in a long time.


3 posted on 03/24/2008 8:20:16 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

I suspect that the NYT is trying to separate McCain from the conservatives, but the problem that they have not yet considered, apparently, is that it cuts both ways.

There are probably a lot of independents who will be attracted to McCain by this story.


4 posted on 03/24/2008 8:20:36 AM PDT by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

NY Slimes aside, it explains a lot about McCain’s actions the last eight years or so.

Just like Algore, McCain thinks the presedency was “stolen” from him in 00 and that he now “deserves” it.


5 posted on 03/24/2008 8:21:13 AM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient....then repent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

Well, Elisabeth Bumiller is one of the worst rats working at the NY Times.

On the other hand, I believe this story is largely true. McCain did toy with leaving the party, and he does hate the base. He loses no opportunity to work with people like Feingold and Kennedy. And if he is elected, it will only get worse, as there will no longer be any restraints on him.

Maybe the best solution would be, since Hildabeast and Mohammed Hussein Osama are destroying each other, if McCain went to Denver and got the Democrat nomination, with Kucinich as his running mate.

Then the Republican convention could start all over, and maybe come up with a decent candidate next time.


6 posted on 03/24/2008 8:23:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

The comments section of this article are summer of ‘07 and mention Guiliani? We talking re-treads or what?


7 posted on 03/24/2008 8:26:04 AM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

Still, it calls into question is McCain the best this party can offer? Is Romney? Is Huckabee? Where are the true-blues? Why aren’t they at the forefront? What is exactly going on in this party?


8 posted on 03/24/2008 8:26:08 AM PDT by McKayopectate
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

Can we get him to switch now, and then get a conservative to run against him?


9 posted on 03/24/2008 8:26:54 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

Well I guess I can never run for office as a Republican now because I would have to admit I was a Democrat 25 years ago.


10 posted on 03/24/2008 8:30:08 AM PDT by HD1200
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: McKayopectate

I have been asking myself those same questions!!


11 posted on 03/24/2008 8:33:39 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia
For all of you who are hoping for a Thompson VP, start your wimpering...just read this:

Fred Thompson Back to Playing Prez on TV
Failed GOP presidential hopeful Fred Thompson says he will be going back to his old day job, playing pols on TV. William Morris announced that they've signed big Fred to do TV and movie roles.

Before he tried to make it as an actual president (after being a real Senator from Tennessee), he spent years playing big-shot pols and most recently the District Attorney on "Law & Order." Of course, there's still buzz that could be cast in the role of Veep for John McCain.

12 posted on 03/24/2008 8:34:48 AM PDT by Hildy (Obama: "Yes, I sat in his church, but I didn't inhale.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple

Of course this is a political “HIT PIECE” because the MSM has to do something while Hillary and Obama rip each other to shreds.

Also, I am not a McCain fan, but once again without a doubt, this is a “POLITICAL HIT PIECE” of hyperbole and most likely wishful thinking.

The Democrats have NO one worth looking at and we had several good choices but ended up with McCain.


13 posted on 03/24/2008 8:34:58 AM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: McKayopectate

>Still, it calls into question is McCain the best this party can offer? Is Romney? Is Huckabee? Where are the true-blues? Why aren’t they at the forefront? What is exactly going on in this party?<

The Democratic and Republican Parties have become merely opposite wings of the same bird, and it’s the American people who are getting the bird as our elected officials serve their corporate masters and the special interest groups that dominate both parties.
Lou Dobbs


14 posted on 03/24/2008 8:35:10 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia
McCain-Feingold
McCain-Kennedy
McCain-Edwards
McCain-Lieberman
Favors anti-business global warming legislation
Favors taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research
Files amicus brief against the Wisconsin Right-to-Life movement
Long history of gun-grabbing legislation
Against tax cuts

Wow...what a shock to learn that McCain is in bed with the Democrats. I don't think my heart can stand this kind of surprise! <doing my best impression of Fred Sandford> I'm comin', 'Lizabeth!!
15 posted on 03/24/2008 8:36:21 AM PDT by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

I am in no way a big fan of McCain, but you made mention that after 2000 McCain drifted away from what had been basic Republican policy. Can’t you say that that George Bush has done the same thing as President in many ways. As for McCain’s flirting with becoming a Democrat, I believe the story has substance, but to what degree and who’s telling it is another matter. All these senators on both sides have huge egos (that’s what keeps them there). I think that conservatives should have a more pragmatic view when it comes to the virtue of loyalty-—they’ve been too idealistic-—because that’s what this whole issue is about. I think there’s been a tendency on the the Right that when a Republican politician has strayed from the path of “Reagan conservatism”-—especially if they’ve loudly proclaimed that viewpoint in the past—that the Right wrings its hands and mutters “what a shame”, instead of realizing all these guys are basically egotists whose feet have to be held to the fire by the base, and if they stray they might be up ffor an electoral spanking.

I think McCain basically knows he has the average Republican by the shorties. For all his strayings and flirtings with the Democrats on policy, we know he is not a socialist as Hillary and Obama are. SO WE”RE STUCK WITH HIM.


16 posted on 03/24/2008 8:37:39 AM PDT by brooklyn dave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: McKayopectate
Still, it calls into question is McCain the best this party can offer? Is Romney? Is Huckabee? Where are the true-blues? Why aren’t they at the forefront? What is exactly going on in this party?

It's become the RINO wing of the Democrat Party. And the only way we're going to get rid of it is by not rewarding these liberal sellouts with our votes just because they have that magical 'R' by their names.

17 posted on 03/24/2008 8:37:45 AM PDT by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: brooklyn dave
I think McCain basically knows he has the average Republican by the shorties.

And it's up to us to show McCain that it's really the other way around.

Remember:


18 posted on 03/24/2008 8:39:19 AM PDT by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

McCain twice flirted with the Democratic Party

...that we know of.
19 posted on 03/24/2008 8:40:12 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("McCain is a war hero. He's also a useful idiot for the Democrats." - Mark Levin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hildy
Whimpering? People are considered whiny when they believe they want the best for their country? Did you help during the process or are you a McCain fan? No, spare me, I honestly do not want to know.

Moreover, no matter who is elected, we are in for a rocky ride over the next four years because no one is focusing on the Congress, therefore, we're stuck with a Democrat Congress. Meanwhile,the country is going down the tubes while you are accusing Thompson supporters of whimpering.

Once again, the people who call themselves Conservatives are "eating their own".

Enough!!
20 posted on 03/24/2008 8:42:16 AM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-89 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson