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Court hears guns case (Justice Kennedy, Second Amendment gives "a general right to bear arms")
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/18/08 | Mark Sherman - ap

Posted on 03/18/2008 9:45:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: LonePalm
The police return the gun to the rightful owner and leave. The perp gets a harsher sentence.

I'd probably have to get rid of the gun if the perp killed someone. It's not a rational thing, I know the gun's the same, just the idea that my gun killed an innocent would bother me.

101 posted on 03/18/2008 1:51:15 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: NormsRevenge; All
Chief Justice John Roberts said at his confirmation hearing that the correct reading of the Second Amendment was "still very much an open issue."

Coming from somebody who I think should be aware of Bingham's discussion of the 14th A. in the congressional archives, and how that discussion clarified how we are to interpret the 2nd A., I find Justice Roberts' words about the 2nd A. troubling.

102 posted on 03/18/2008 2:13:04 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Travis McGee

I’ve followed Llahtsov’s theory and practice for several years now.


103 posted on 03/18/2008 2:46:17 PM PDT by mcshot (Missing my cavernous grade school desk which protected from nuclear blasts.)
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To: mcshot

You can’t have too much ammo. You can always shoot it, sell it, or trade it. Or save it for a rainy day.


104 posted on 03/18/2008 2:53:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: antiRepublicrat
It wouldn't bother me. The gun is no different that a knife, ice pick or club. It can be used and misused.

It is tool for making holes, at a distance.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

105 posted on 03/18/2008 2:55:43 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: NormsRevenge
RECEIVED BY EMAIL FROM THE 2D AMENDMENT FOUNDATION TODAY:

NEWS RELEASE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS WON IN TODAY’S SUPREME COURT HEARING, SAYS SAF

BELLEVUE, WA – Today’s oral arguments before the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of District of Columbia v Heller produced a clear victory for the individual citizen’s right to keep and bear arms, the Second Amendment Foundation said.

“We are confident,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, “that the high court will hand down an opinion that affirms the Second Amendment means what it says. Based on the questions that the justices asked, it is clear that they read the amicus briefs submitted by our side in support of District resident Dick Anthony Heller. We were impressed with the depth of questions asked by all of the justices, and we have no doubt that the court has a clear understanding of Second Amendment history, and that ‘the people’ are all citizens.

“We believe the District presented a very weak defense of its handgun ban that is not supported by court precedent or historical fact,” he continued. “Attorney Alan Gura, and Solicitor General Paul Clement, however, both provided a clear and proper perspective on the meaning of the Second Amendment. Mr. Gura’s remarks left the justices with a clear understanding why the District’s handgun ban is unconstitutional.”

Gottlieb believes that Gura, one of three attorneys representing District resident Dick Anthony Heller, who is challenging the 32-year-old handgun ban, “won the oral argument.”

“While we do not expect the Supreme Court to strike down every gun law and regulation on the books,” Gottlieb said, “we anticipate that the court will rule once and for all that the right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental individual civil right, and that gun bans, even on specific types of commonly-owned firearms, do not stand up under even modest scrutiny.

“An affirmative ruling, which we anticipate sometime in late June,” he concluded, “will provide a foundation upon which other Draconian firearms laws can be challenged, and more importantly, it will destroy a fantasy that has become a cornerstone argument for restrictive gun control laws. This should put an end to the lie that the Second Amendment only protects some mythical right of the states to organize a militia. That was not true when the amendment was written, it is not true today, and it will not be true tomorrow, regardless how hard extremist gun banners try to make it so.”

106 posted on 03/18/2008 3:01:09 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama is a black racist.)
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To: xsrdx

“Everybody over age 18 should have a submachine gun. Next?”

Nope. Everybody under age 18 should have a submachine gun. Everybody over age 18 should have a true machine gun. And lots of ammo.


107 posted on 03/18/2008 3:35:40 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: Amendment10
Coming from somebody who I think should be aware of Bingham's discussion of the 14th A. in the congressional archives, and how that discussion clarified how we are to interpret the 2nd A., I find Justice Roberts' words about the 2nd A. troubling.

Well, at that point, he's not a member of the Supreme Court...so since they hadn't ruled specifically on the 2nd Amendment recently, it *was* an open issue.

108 posted on 03/18/2008 4:08:32 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: BigBadVoodooDaddy
How do you all feel about raising the mandatory sentences for crimes where a gun is involved (robbery, assault, and worse)?

How do you feel about being lenient with robbers, rapists, etc. who refrain from using icky nasty guns for their crimes?

109 posted on 03/18/2008 4:14:50 PM PDT by supercat
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To: RetiredArmy

Gee. That’s counting one’s chickens before the fox is out of the henhouse.


110 posted on 03/18/2008 4:15:34 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Redbob
Thanks for giving the rest of us a black eye.

Idiot

111 posted on 03/18/2008 5:13:35 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Antoninus

Facts don’t matter to liberals. Breyer has to be very aware from the may amicus briefs that the ban on handguns in DC HAS NOT resulted in increased pubic safety. He just doesn’t care.


112 posted on 03/18/2008 5:26:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: lepton
I know. But, if you have spent any time in court, you get a feeling about how cases are going. The Supremes can of course be very different. But, I guess they feel that our side did the better job and the other side did poorly. I am sure if they thought we were in trouble, they may have responded that way also. But, based on Kennedy's questioning, I feel good about it. HE is the vote. The other 8 will vote 4-4 I think.
113 posted on 03/18/2008 6:06:11 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama is a black racist.)
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To: Sloth
Members of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence chanted "guns kill"

Why, I do believe they're right. That's one of the reasons why I have them.

114 posted on 03/18/2008 6:39:09 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only thing that prevents liberals from loading us all into cattle cars is the power to do it)
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To: Travis McGee
I've just finished reading the transcript.

My take:
Even the most conservative Justices (Thomas excepted, for obvious reasons) seem to have left a lot of cover for existing restrictions on military arms. Counterintuitively, they seem to say it's important to protect the right of the individual to show up armed for militia muster as long as they don't do it with anything more powerful than what's commonly available to the average civilian. And, by the way, machine guns (or anything else we decide isn't OK) aren't commonly available since the law makers say they can't be.

Greaaatttt.

God, PLEASE Save the Constitution.

115 posted on 03/18/2008 6:51:16 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution)
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To: RetiredArmy
“While we do not expect the Supreme Court to strike down every gun law and regulation on the books,” Gottlieb said, “we anticipate that the court will rule once and for all that the right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental individual civil right, and that gun bans, even on specific types of commonly-owned firearms, do not stand up under even modest scrutiny.

Gotcha!

Scalia and Roberts said machine guns aren't commonly-owned. (They seemed to fall silent on the reason.) EBRs aren't common in California, either.

See you lads at the muster. And don't forget your longbows and quivers, ya hear...

116 posted on 03/18/2008 7:00:29 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution)
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To: LTCJ

Frankly, I’ll be satisfied if they put semi-autos with normal (high) cap mags off limits to the gun grabbers. Unless you have a mountain of ammo behind you, full auto isn’t much use. Aimed shots will make better use of ammo.


117 posted on 03/18/2008 7:23:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I think we should sue the feds under osha rules, because suppressors would protect our ears, but No, the feds will not allow us to shoot with suppresors...

:-)In non clasIII states

118 posted on 03/18/2008 7:27:41 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: BwanaNdege

Crime has nothing to do with gun control. Breyer KNOWS that crime wasn’t reduced by disarming private citizens. His aim is to help the liberals in Congress pas slaws to eventually disarm AL of the US so that we cannot effectively fight back against socialism.


119 posted on 03/18/2008 7:28:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: RetiredArmy

“When will they announce a decision, any quess?”

The most important cases always seem to come at the very end of the term.

Unless there is a suprising consensus among the justices, I would expect this decision to be handed down the last week, or quite possibly on the final day that the Court is in session for this term.

- John


120 posted on 03/18/2008 7:41:58 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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