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This Day In History: Texas Declares Independence From Mexico
Texas Convention Of 1836 (Via Lone Star Junction) ^ | 2 March 1836 | Multiple

Posted on 03/02/2008 10:09:07 AM PST by Spktyr

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To: Spktyr

Today’s Sam’s birthday, too.

His Indian friends called him the ‘big drunk’.


21 posted on 03/02/2008 1:27:42 PM PST by txhurl
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To: SaxxonWoods
How wonderful to have a document like that. My mothers family arrived in about 1828 with John Bevil but I have not found any proof. The Bevil Settlement was in east Texas and I haven’t been able to find out much about it.
22 posted on 03/02/2008 1:27:44 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Don’t give up on it. One of my uncles did the research so I don’t know how to go about it. But there are some pretty good records available. You might get some guidance from the Daughters of the Texas Republic. I’ll check my personal library for mentions of Bevil and freepmail you if I find anything interesting.


23 posted on 03/02/2008 1:35:24 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Thanks, that is very generous of you. I have found a few mentions of Bevil Settlement on the web but nothing that lists names.
24 posted on 03/02/2008 1:44:20 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Try these books.

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Madeleine+Martin&kn=Texas&sts=t&x=51&y=14


25 posted on 03/02/2008 1:56:50 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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To: Ditter

There is a Bevil Oaks settlement on Hwy 105 about 6 miles west of Beaumont nestled against the banks of Pine Island Bayou. Because of its location on the Bayou it could well date back into history as Pine Island ties into the Neches River and thus has access to Beaumont and the Gulf.


26 posted on 03/02/2008 2:21:11 PM PST by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: txflake

If the Union so much as raises an eyebrow at our intent to split up, our annexation contract with the Union is breached, null and void, and Texas forthwith reverts to her own Sovereign Country.


Doesn’t the annexation documents provide for this to occur as provided for under the US Constitution? Thus the Congress would have a say.


27 posted on 03/02/2008 2:25:44 PM PST by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Thanks a bunch! I already ordered the book. Now I hope I haven’t wasted $33.


28 posted on 03/02/2008 2:26:04 PM PST by Ditter
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To: deport
I have been to the location of my family's land grant and it was a few miles north east of Jasper. A distant relative still owned a portion of it but the old original log house was gone. Nothing but a few old grave stones. My great great grandparents were buried there in about 1878. Interesting to see, glad I took pictures.
29 posted on 03/02/2008 2:30:16 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Yes that is a little north east of the location I was speaking of. I’m not much into genealogy but it is interesting at times to look for old family history. Good luck into your search.

I at one time owned a piece of property that had the original title going back to the original land grants. It was interesting to look at the history via the land transfers.


30 posted on 03/02/2008 2:38:21 PM PST by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: deport; K-oneTexas; Texas Songwriter; txroadkill; hispanarepublicana; B-Chan; Alamo-Girl; ...

Haven’t delved that deep (but I am going to), but I highly doubt Sam would let Congress decide our Sovereignty, should Texas need to employ the ‘nucular’ option.

It would be pointless to demand the 5-state solution if it were subject to congressional oversight.


31 posted on 03/02/2008 3:28:28 PM PST by txhurl
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To: SaxxonWoods

There is a second book with more families at the link also. Some libraries in that part of the state should have those books. There was no mention of Bevil in my books, which deal more with west and central Texas and the Alamo.

Good luck. You will be quite popular in your family if you come up with some good finds.


32 posted on 03/02/2008 4:21:23 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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To: txflake

I remember reading something years ago that the Congress in session when Texas re-enter the Union after the Civil War took that option away. It would be secession and our own nation again. Something like that. Better find a Freeper that is a Texas historian.


33 posted on 03/02/2008 4:37:13 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: txflake

Haven’t delved that deep (but I am going to), but I highly doubt Sam would let Congress decide our Sovereignty, should Texas need to employ the ‘nucular’ option.


I’ll help you a bit by linking you to the annexation resolution which Texas agreed to. I’ll link and quote the appropriate section. Note the reference subject to the US Constitution..... Then go read the Constitution, Article IV, Sec. 3.


http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/annexation/march1845.html

-—Third — New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution; and such states as may be formed out of the territory lying south of thirty-six degrees thirty minutes north latitude, commonly known as the Missouri Compromise Line, shall be admitted into the Union, with or without slavery, as the people of each State, asking admission shall desire; and in such State or States as shall be formed out of said territory, north of said Missouri Compromise Line, slavery, or involuntary servitude (except for crime) shall be prohibited.


34 posted on 03/02/2008 4:45:58 PM PST by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: Spktyr

Source

35 posted on 03/02/2008 5:12:42 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: txflake

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 03/02/2008 9:08:47 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: txflake

Thanks txflake. I think its time for another war with mexico.


37 posted on 03/03/2008 4:28:52 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Both dim candidates promise change and/or hope. I don't think the USA can afford their message.)
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