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A Sure-Fire Argument on the Second Amendment
fff.org, commentaries ^ | 2/18/08 | Rick Lynch

Posted on 02/18/2008 7:42:35 AM PST by ProfessorGage

With the Supreme Court’s decision to examine the constitutionality of D.C.’s gun ban, the nation once again turns to an intense examination of the wording of the Second Amendment. One way to understand an amendment whose words have confused generations is to study its somewhat confusing text. But another way is to examine at whose request the amendment was written.

For example, if 200 years from now constitutional scholars are trying to determine whether the Smith Tax Act of 2008 increased or decreased the taxes Social Security recipients paid on their retirement income, knowing that the act came into being as the result of pressure from AARP would pretty much end that debate.

This, then, is a vital question when seeking to understand the Second Amendment. For if you know the context in which the Amendment was written, if you know for whom it was written, if you know who was clamoring for it and what were their concerns, then that can help settle any argument of individual rights versus collective rights.

The Bill of Rights was written by Congressman James Madison to fulfill a promise made to the Anti-Federalists after pressure from that group had cost him a Senate seat — pressure brought to bear because of his opposition to amending the Constitution with a bill of rights. The Bill of Rights, then, as any history book will confirm, came into being to satisfy the single most suspicious, vociferous, and relentless foes of the new federal government.

That is the all-important context in which the Bill of Rights was created. The Anti-Federalists, men filled to varying degrees with fear, mistrust, and loathing of the new federal government, insisted on a bill of rights as additional shackles imposed on that new government. Knowing that alone, knowing that the famous Bill came into existence only to please those most apprehensive of the new government, definitively ends any confusion or debate surrounding the meaning of the Second Amendment.

There is simply no way on Earth the Anti-Federalists would have surrendered to the new and mistrusted government the right to own any gun they wanted at any time they wanted in any number they wanted.

To believe differently, to believe that the Second Amendment actually gives the federal government the authority to regulate firearms, one must believe the absolutely unbelievable. One must believe that the Anti-Federalists, fearing and loathing federal power, compelled Madison to compose this laundry list of rights, this list of things over which the government was to have no authority and, very near the very top of the list, these people in fear of the federal government desired a clause that reads, “Despite the fact that Article I, Section 8 does not empower you federal government people to infringe our firearms rights, we hereby correct that mistake and surrender to you a right which we previously held, but wish now to give away.”

We must further believe that James Madison was such a monumentally incompetent and abysmal writer that, when trying to give the federal government this new authority to regulate the private ownership of firearms, the last fourteen words of the Amendment read, “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

We must also believe that revolutionary American history conceals some hitherto unknown and utterly undocumented groundswell of public desire for gun control.

Picture in your mind for a moment the rough-and-tumble individualist who gave birth to this nation, a man who had tamed a wilderness, fought Indian wars on and off for 180 years, and successfully faced down the world’s mightiest empire. Hold a picture of that man in your head for a moment and then try to imagine his being told that this new federal government would have the power to regulate his ownership of firearms in any manner it saw fit, including imprisoning him for possession of any firearm for any reason at any time.

No honest or serious person could ever claim to believe that any part of the American electorate in the 1700s desired federal gun control, let alone the Anti-Federalists who forced the creation of the Bill of Rights.

Rick Lynch is an author living in Virginia. He is finishing a book on constitutional issues entitled They Are Vicious. Send him email.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; billofrights; constitution; dcgunban; heller; parker; secondamendment
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I had always known, of course, that the collective rights argument was silly, but I have NEVER seen a more convincing argument than this. No need to look up quotes, and no arguing about what a militia means. Good stuff.
1 posted on 02/18/2008 7:42:38 AM PST by ProfessorGage
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To: ProfessorGage

PING that!


2 posted on 02/18/2008 7:48:09 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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A man from Mars lands in America. He wants to kill as many American’s with a gun as he can. He scopes out the whole country. He decides on schools. He buys his guns and off he went.
Before he could get started a reporter stopped him to ask, “So what brings you to America?” The Martian responses, “Well, I was teased as a child and after I stopped taking my medication back on Mars I wanted some revenge.”

“Why take it out on American’s?” the reporter pushed back. “Because on Mars, everybody owns a gun.” Not quite sure what to say, the reporter asks in a matter of fact way, “Doesn’t everybody here in America own guns?” With a Martian chuckle, and his hand on the reporters shoulder, he answered, “Not everybody.”

As the Martian turned to walk away, the reporter shot back, “What do you mean?”

With a sinister grin, and his hands morosely caressing his brand new semi-automatic pistols tucked into his belt, the Martian quipped, “SCHOOLS! They’re gun free zones.”

4 posted on 02/18/2008 7:53:34 AM PST by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: ProfessorGage

This is good stuff.


5 posted on 02/18/2008 7:55:09 AM PST by umgud
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To: umgud

I find it a bit amazing, really. I have NEVER seen the “argument from context” before — it’s always the definition of a militia, and some quotes from Jefferson and the boys on their views on firearms. I find this much more convincing. A suspicious and freedom-loving electorate is going to bring into existence a gov’t that can take its guns? BS!


6 posted on 02/18/2008 8:00:14 AM PST by ProfessorGage
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In a way it is a “collective” right. I have the right to collect as many guns as I wish, regardless of my government’s fear of the same. And I will continue to do so limited only by my ability to pay a fair price.


7 posted on 02/18/2008 8:07:56 AM PST by junkman72 (just another day at the junkyard/time to buy another handgun(VA req.))
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To: ProfessorGage

In a way it is a “collective” right. I have the right to collect as many guns as I wish, regardless of my government’s fear of the same. And I will continue to do so limited only by my ability to pay a fair price.


8 posted on 02/18/2008 8:07:59 AM PST by junkman72 (just another day at the junkyard/time to buy another handgun(VA req.))
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sorry for the double post; sometimes I stutter.


9 posted on 02/18/2008 8:09:06 AM PST by junkman72 (just another day at the junkyard/time to buy another handgun(VA req.))
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This is all assuming that the SCOTUS will view their opinions on the 2A in terms of their original meaning, which is something that Thomas Jefferson stated specifically must be done when determining Constitutional law.

Of course, this has lately been replaced by crapola like considering international law for such decisions. As we all know, no good comes from that.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

10 posted on 02/18/2008 8:09:08 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: ProfessorGage

Bump for a good article.


11 posted on 02/18/2008 8:11:27 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: ProfessorGage

BTTT


12 posted on 02/18/2008 8:21:51 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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Bump ... I hope and pray that the lawyers in this case do use this argument.


13 posted on 02/18/2008 8:24:47 AM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r)
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That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking! I’d love to see a liberal’s response to this argument. As a matter of fact, I’ll be trying it out later today. I wonder if the Supreme Court’s heard oral arguments yet.


14 posted on 02/18/2008 8:26:28 AM PST by ProfessorGage
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but we are dealing with a lawyer class of people who don’t live in the real world. They only live in the vacume of courts, cable tv subscriptions, gourmet supermarkets and carbon credits really work. These are the people who in law school grew to believe the second amendment of the constitution was unconstitutional in this day and age.

Logic has NOTHING to do with this case, it is all about who is the judge making the decision. period. (see kelo)


15 posted on 02/18/2008 8:38:38 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ProfessorGage

The standard liberal response will be that the constitution is a ‘living, breathing document’ and that the courts should interpret it in whatever context fits liberal thinking.

You can counter by explaining that, using their interpretation, every civil right could be twisted to be restricted in any fashion a judge sees fit. However, that won’t work because liberals are incapable of systematic, multi-dimensional thought, i.e. they can’t understand the consequences of following their ‘logic’ beyond a single instance. Or, worse, they do understand it and want an all-powerful gov’t.


16 posted on 02/18/2008 8:41:31 AM PST by javachip
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actually I have observing the “lawyer circles” response.

They are not worried because they believe ALL gun control, even outright bans, pass the required strict scrutiny test.

Thus it is an individual right which even under the strictist of tests can and shall be draconianly regulated for the public good. (its for the children)

You win and still lose.


17 posted on 02/18/2008 8:52:50 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: junkman72
Well, here in California they have a law that says you have to buy a handgun every 30 days. I’m up to 72 and going broke. It is a sneaky law because I have the guns but can’t afford the ammo.
18 posted on 02/18/2008 9:01:14 AM PST by super7man
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To: Joe Brower

Judges who consider international law for such decisions need immediate insertion of lead earplugs.


19 posted on 02/18/2008 9:01:25 AM PST by B4Ranch ("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: super7man

Bring them up to Nevada and I’ll give you my coupons for ammo.


20 posted on 02/18/2008 9:02:34 AM PST by B4Ranch ("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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