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Regurgitating the Apple: How Modern Liberals "Think"
The Heritage Foundation ^ | May 10 2007 | Evan Sayet

Posted on 02/09/2008 10:52:51 PM PST by Rurudyne

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To: Rurudyne
How Modern Liberals "Think"

Does my opinion agree with the groups? If yes good, if no change mind to agree.

21 posted on 02/10/2008 5:33:29 AM PST by Eddie01 (Freepers don't let Freepers get spun)
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To: Rurudyne
Fortunately conservatives don't think like this.

Which is why we must all sit out this election and let Hillobama be our next president < /s>

22 posted on 02/10/2008 5:41:33 AM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Andrewksu

This is a must read. Its long, but its the best explanation that I’ve run across for the totally illogical and bizarre behavior of the left.


23 posted on 02/10/2008 6:07:59 AM PST by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: Rurudyne
Teachers teach in schools and get a paycheck for doing it. No gun his being held at their head forcing them to do it.

From the article:

It's not just foreign policy; it's every policy. Given the choice between promoting teenage abstinence and teenage promiscuity--and believe me, I know this from my hometown of Hollywood--they will use their movies, their TV shows, their songs,

even the schools to promote teenage promiscuity as if it's cool: like the movie American Pie, in which you are a loser unless you've had sex with your best friend's mother while you're still a child. Conversely, NARAL, a pro-abortion group masquerading as a pro-choice group, will hold a fund-raiser called "‘F' Abstinence." (And it's not just "F." It's the entire word, because promoting vulgarity is part of their agenda.)

24 posted on 02/10/2008 6:14:09 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Rurudyne

Thanks for (re)posting this. There is a previous post on FR, but, in my opinion, this should be posted once a month, minimum. It is a

MUST READ

for all, and not just FReepers.

I have referred dozens of FReepers to this article, but didn’t think to re-post it. Thanks for doing so.

Another MUST READ for FReepers: Thomas Sowell’s “Conflict of Visions”.


25 posted on 02/10/2008 6:21:44 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Rurudyne
And there are Freepers every day who post that their child's government school is somehow different.

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So he used all the tricks and manipulations and lies that he could to show that America isn't that good, that America isn't worth fighting for, that Saddam Hussein isn't that evil and not worth fighting against, for the purpose of undermining our efforts to go to war.

Again, there is quite literally nothing in Holly­wood, in the newspapers, in our schools that does not have this as its sole criterion..

26 posted on 02/10/2008 6:32:30 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Rurudyne

Liberals are the most hate filled people. They preach tolerance and “open minds” but they expect that only of their hate filled ways.


27 posted on 02/10/2008 6:33:47 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Rurudyne

“I think that, more than anything else, Modern Liberalism is characterized by its destructive nature. It tears down the authority of people in the schools, the authority of the old textbooks, the heroism of the people we would look up to and teach our chil­dren to look up to, but replaces it with nothing.”

That might just be the best definition of liberalism I have ever read.

Most liberals I know have a real problem with authority. As if anyone who has any authority of any kind must automatically be distrusted.
When they themselves have to weild authority unto others (especially in the area of parenting) - they are incompetent.


28 posted on 02/10/2008 6:40:40 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: AnAmericanMother
I do wonder how 30 years of indoctrination can be undone.
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I have a suggestion:

The Marxists understood that they had to gain control of education. Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) must do the same. How?

Solution ( 2 things):

1) Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) must set up private scholarship foundations to grant private vouchers to private schools that uphold and support constitutional, free market, and Judeo Christian belief.

If Harvard can have a $35 BILLION dollar endowment, and universities across this nation similar endowments in the BILLIONS, then Conservatives **could** do this for K-12 education.

**Every** child in America **could** have access to the best education ever seen since the dawn of humankind, **if** conservatives **wanted**. In fact, we could do it for every child in the world. We are that rich as a nation!

These foundations would inspect, certify, and test. Not only could they provide vouchers to individual children, but they could also fund individual teachers who could set up one room school houses, dame schools, micro-schools, and virtual schools.

2) Conservatives must organize a massive school tax revolt that would shut down government K-12 education.

29 posted on 02/10/2008 6:58:13 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Swordmaker; All
Thanks to Swordmaker for a good ping.

Maybe this explains the appeal of Obama. He makes people feel good--that they don't have to fight. He makes them think that John Lennon's Imagine world is just around the corner.

He will be an enormously difficult candidate to fight as he has learned how to manipulate this particular strain of thinking. Every attempt to "discriminate" between Obama and McCain will be met with the response that the speaker is picking a fight and fighting is bad. Look at how hard a time HRC is having attacking him. And look at his responses. HRC punches. He replies in sorrow that she just punched him and in't that sad?

Of course, that's what elections are. Two sides pick a fight and ask people to discriminate between candidates. So we may be having our first truly post-modern election--especially given the high level of agreement between the two candidates on most issues. The election will end up being about not-fighting. Any issue that makes people uncomfortable--illegal immigration, abortion--will just disappear.

As an aside, that's also why so many--even on FR--get so angry when abortion protesters show pictures of aborted babies. It poses the issue of right and wrong in a way that cannot be ignored and places the relativist in severe mental contradiction. What they see is evil. They know it. But that forces them to discriminate whether they like it or not--to call evil by its name. And on some deep, gut level, they know that doing so is evil. So instead of having an epiphany, they attack the person who forced them into this uncomfortable situation.

30 posted on 02/10/2008 7:08:46 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Rurudyne
At that moment, I realized: They really do hate America

I actually came to this realization in 1968.

31 posted on 02/10/2008 7:12:33 AM PST by Rush4U (unnamed source)
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To: backhoe; Cindy; Travis McGee; Corin Stormhands; Gabz; FARS; xcamel; NormsRevenge; Politicalmom; ...

If this is a 2nd ping for any of you guys, my apologies, but this is a must read and scary as it can be.


32 posted on 02/10/2008 7:20:03 AM PST by Darnright
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To: Rush4U

The 2000 election did it for me. I decided at that point that liberals were evil or stupid.

I have never again considered having a liberal as a friend. I have never again had them over to the house for a visit or dinner. I do make an exception for Liberal relatives, but it is tough though.


33 posted on 02/10/2008 7:31:33 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Swordmaker

Good Ping SM. You can extend the Liberal thinking to the open borders mindset. When there is a incident greater than 9/11 against us from this illegal invasion only then will they see their folly...


34 posted on 02/10/2008 7:39:46 AM PST by tubebender
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To: wintertime

I hear that. My wife’s sister is your stereotypical raving lunatic of a liberal who is very versed in the latest liberal talking points. I just go in the other room or I will come up with something “important” to do that I “forgot” and I’ll leave.


35 posted on 02/10/2008 7:41:35 AM PST by Rush4U (unnamed source)
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To: Rurudyne
I agree with Mr. Sayet. The Liberal/Marxist (and their Useful Idiots, the homosexuals) would kill Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) if they could get away with it. Already, in some sectors it is impossible for Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) to get and keep a job.

In fact, Modern Liberalism--upper-case "L" - is about as illiberal a philosophy as we've had in America, and though it's not quite yet gotten as violent as some others have, I fear that it's on its way

36 posted on 02/10/2008 7:52:44 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
Even better would be to develop high-quality online education programs, in part because that would bring in the $35 billion you seek.
37 posted on 02/10/2008 7:54:23 AM PST by Carry_Okie (We have people in power who love evil.)
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To: Rurudyne

Powerful stuff.


38 posted on 02/10/2008 7:56:28 AM PST by GOPJ (Take your ball - go home - sit this one out? Fifty years of liberal Supreme Court decisions? NO WAY.)
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To: Swordmaker
and it left me wondering what we can do to reverse what has already happened.( Swordmaker)
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There is still time, but not much.
The Liberal/Marxists control the government schools. Freedom will not survive if the Marxists succeed in indoctrinating the next generation of voters!

Wintertime

The following is a repost of post #29:
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The Marxists understood that they had to gain control of education. Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) must do the same. How?

Solution ( 2 things):

1) Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) must set up private scholarship foundations to grant private vouchers to private schools that uphold and support constitutional, free market, and Judeo Christian belief.

If Harvard can have a $35 BILLION dollar endowment, and universities across this nation similar endowments in the BILLIONS, then Conservatives **could** do this for K-12 education.

**Every** child in America **could** have access to the best education ever seen since the dawn of humankind, **if** conservatives **wanted**. In fact, we could do it for every child in the world. We are that rich as a nation!

These foundations would inspect, certify, and test. Not only could they provide vouchers to individual children, but they could also fund individual teachers who could set up one room school houses, dame schools, micro-schools, and virtual schools.

2) Conservatives must organize a massive school tax revolt that would shut down government K-12 education.

39 posted on 02/10/2008 7:58:55 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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