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Administration Rankles Some With Stance in Handgun Case (Presidential amicus brief on DC Gun Ban)
Washington Post ^ | 01/20/08 | By Robert Barnes

Posted on 01/20/2008 5:31:20 PM PST by Copernicus

If the justices accept that advice when they hear the case in the spring, it could mean additional years of litigation over the controversial Second Amendment and could undo a ruling that was a seminal victory for gun rights enthusiasts.

Some were livid. One conservative Web site said the administration had "blundered in catastrophic fashion," and another turned Clement, usually a pinup for conservative legal scholars, into a digital dartboard. Rep. Eric Cantor (Va.), the Republicans' chief deputy whip, called the brief "just outrageous," and Republican presidential candidate and former senator Fred D. Thompson (Tenn.) accused the Justice Department of "overlawyering" the issue.

David B. Kopel, an associate policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, said that President Bush was elected in part because of the passion of gun rights activists and that "the citizen activists would never have spent all those hours volunteering for a candidate whose position on the constitutionality of a handgun ban was 'maybe.' "

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; amicusbrief; banglist; ccw; doj; ericcantor; heller; nra; parker; rkba; scotus
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Okay, no longer buried in Bloggers and Personal, here is an "official" Muddlestream Media account of the Department of Justice Amicus Brief on the DC Gun Ban.

Best regards to all,

1 posted on 01/20/2008 5:31:24 PM PST by Copernicus
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To: Joe Brower
Update on DC Amicus Brief.

Best regards,

2 posted on 01/20/2008 5:32:31 PM PST by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
To all those who say Romney has the same views as George Bush, what I’ve been saying all along still holds true...Mitt Romney is no friend of the Second Amendment and would be a disaster on Second Amendment issues.
3 posted on 01/20/2008 5:38:24 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Copernicus

Thank you for posting .

Bump...


4 posted on 01/20/2008 5:38:50 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (No RINO's -VOTE FRED ... Thank you :))
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To: Copernicus
Administration Rankles Some With Stance in Handgun Case

I can assure you, this has more than rankled me.

I am a longtime Bush supporter. You can check my posts going back to 2,000 and not find any Bush bashing on my part. It has pained me that he let me down on immigration and I said so, but I sucked it up and held my water.

Shooting me in the back over my 2A rights, whowever, might be too much. If we lose this SCOTUS decision with GWB's help, I'll be more than bitter and certainly not forgiving. BTW, I'm being mild here and not posting my true anger over this.

5 posted on 01/20/2008 5:39:25 PM PST by umgud
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To: AlaskaErik

We are on the same page ... Here’s some info for anyone else who doesn’t know about Flip’s anti-gun stances ....

http://www.issues2000.org/2008/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm


6 posted on 01/20/2008 5:40:37 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (No RINO's -VOTE FRED ... Thank you :))
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To: umgud

I share your pain and admire your reserved expression which I find necessary to do also.


7 posted on 01/20/2008 5:45:06 PM PST by mcshot (Missing my grade school desk which protected from nuclear blasts.)
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To: umgud
I feel your pain and anger. I also voted for Bush both times and this is what we get in return. I find his amicus brief to be a despicable act of treachery against those who have stood by him all these years.
8 posted on 01/20/2008 5:45:51 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: umgud

“Shooting me in the back over my 2A rights, whowever, might be too much. If we lose this SCOTUS decision with GWB’s help, I’ll be more than bitter and certainly not forgiving. BTW, I’m being mild here and not posting my true anger over this.”

Perhaps they fear that the court will actually rule for the 2A as the Founding Fathers intended. Or more likely they are making a bunch of back door deals to get the ruling they want.

More likely all these Big government folks fear free citizens would hamper their agenda for a global socialist utopia.


9 posted on 01/20/2008 5:48:02 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Copernicus

Hell, if I’d have known that “W” had all these major problems, I would have just gone fishing, instead of hauling my old butt out of bed, to vote for him!
“W” has got to be the biggest let down in my life!


10 posted on 01/20/2008 5:50:00 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Copernicus

Here’s a better headline:

Bush is a Traitor.


11 posted on 01/20/2008 5:54:36 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: umgud
It has pained me that he let me down

Welcome home.

12 posted on 01/20/2008 5:56:15 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I remember in 2000 an NRA state director saying that in a video that if gwB was elected “We would have one of our guys in the White House”

And of course the Msm went bonkers over that video

“Why he is the back pocket of the NRA”

I would have prefered if he had been in the back pocket of the NRA, and I also think if one of the Dhimmirats wins in November, GWB’s two terms will be known as the “Happy Time”.


13 posted on 01/20/2008 6:00:14 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Copernicus
One has to be beyond moronic to submit such briefs before the Roberts court, an insult to the justices, and I sincerely hope the Roberts court tears apart these lawyers. I’m not holding my breath, but it would be proper for the court to assail everyone who submitted briefs that are so convoluted, contrary and twisted.
14 posted on 01/20/2008 6:05:30 PM PST by kingu (Fred08 - The Constitution is the value I'm voting for. What value are you voting for?)
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To: umgud
I can assure you, this has more than rankled me.

I am a longtime Bush supporter. You can check my posts going back to 2,000 and not find any Bush bashing on my part. It has pained me that he let me down on immigration and I said so, but I sucked it up and held my water.

Shooting me in the back over my 2A rights, whowever, might be too much. If we lose this SCOTUS decision with GWB's help, I'll be more than bitter and certainly not forgiving. BTW, I'm being mild here and not posting my true anger over this.

I think most of us here on FR share your pain on this. After voting for Bush twice, I have never felt so betrayed.

15 posted on 01/20/2008 6:06:33 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

myself also. I have never felt so betrayed in my life. anybody heard a response yet from the nra on this latest issue?


16 posted on 01/20/2008 6:11:04 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: padre35

“GWB’s two terms will be known as the “Happy Time”.
________________________________________________
How about the “WASTE OF TIME’?
I would never have worked my ass of to get him elected, if I had ever suspected just how bad he was set to screw me over!
Shame on Me, I won’t do that, again!


17 posted on 01/20/2008 6:18:37 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: umgud
umgud said: "I'm being mild here and not posting my true anger over this."

I wrote snail-mail letters to both Bush and Clement.

The justification in the brief for a lower level of scrutiny is extremely weak. It basically just ignores the Second Amendment. I hope that my request that they withdraw this brief doesn't result in them submitting a stronger one.

The only justification for suggesting that "reasonable regulation" isn't an infringement was one early court decision which permitted a ban on concealed carry. One judge's decision is hardly sufficient to outweigh the Founder's intentions to bar infringements.

I recommend that everybody communicate their dissatisfaction with this brief.

18 posted on 01/20/2008 6:20:35 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: kingu
 
Like I said on another thread, some sharp legal eagles need to make a big stink about this. The "Justice" Department's position on this is untenable and out of line, and should be quashed. I do believe there is some rule of ethics/procedure that a counsel (in this case, the justice dept.) cannot take a position adversarial to that of the client they are representing (that being us, the people).
 

19 posted on 01/20/2008 6:26:36 PM PST by LastDayz
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To: bobby.223
Briefs Filed in D.C. Gun Ban Case

Statement Of the National Rifle Association

20 posted on 01/20/2008 6:27:55 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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