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Government Handouts Won't Help Economy (BS commentary)
Townhall.com ^ | January 20, 2008 | Robert Bluey

Posted on 01/20/2008 5:08:24 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/20/2008 5:08:25 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

We need lower tax rates on income, capitals gains and dividends, lower individual tax rates and lower corporate tax rates. In fact, we need a single 15% rate on all income.

We definitely don’t need more hand outs on food stamps and unemployment compensation.


2 posted on 01/20/2008 5:15:02 AM PST by Perdogg (Huckabee got his foreign policy from IHOP, McCain got his immigration policy from The Waffle House)
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To: Kaslin

Nothing BS about it. Temporary borrowing to fuel consumption is the worst way to stimulate the economy, helps China more than it helps us.


3 posted on 01/20/2008 5:17:25 AM PST by palmer
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To: Kaslin
Some times I think we'd have been better off electing Al Gore in 2000. The 9/11 attacks would have happened on his watch, so that it would have been apparent that Democrat policies are the real reason for the terrorists attacking us. Gore's subsequent mismanagement of that event and the economic damage it caused would have made him a one termer.

His lousy popularity because of 9/11 and his overall bizarreness, which would have become apparent even to the most brain dead voter once he was the President, would have led to a Republican landslide in the Congress, strengthening our hold on both houses.

The only variable would have been who would have been the Republican nominee in 2004. Whoever it ended up being could still have been a disaster.

W's only real accomplishments have been keeping the terrorists at bay (a major, key accomplishment, don't get me wrong), and appointing two conservative judges to the Supreme Court (ditto). Other than that, we might as well have had a Democrat in the White House.

4 posted on 01/20/2008 5:22:19 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: palmer

Precisely. Why would anyone think who purports to be ‘economically conservative” think otherwise?


5 posted on 01/20/2008 5:26:04 AM PST by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Kaslin
President Bush doesn’t like to admit he’s made mistakes. But if White House chatter about an economic stimulus package is true, the president is about to repeat a misstep made early in his first term.

I’m talking about the 2001 tax rebates -- government handouts that arrived in the mail. Individuals got $300 and married couples received $600 -- all in hopes of stimulating the economy.

The writer is correct. W has always been economically ignorant and disinterested. Apparently he hasn't learned much either. The only reason W got a second term was congressman Bill Thomas took control of the 2003 tax cut and economic stimulus bill.

6 posted on 01/20/2008 5:26:21 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Kaslin

Again, no BS here. The great Milton Friedman made this very point and past experience has confirmed it.

Here I give credit to Romney’s proposed solution, though of course in the best case he can’t do anything about it until ‘09. Romney has taken this herd-mentality demand and responded to it with solid, permanent tax cuts. If only W would have seen to do the same—and pair it with budget cuts!


7 posted on 01/20/2008 5:26:51 AM PST by 9YearLurker (Fred just keeps looking better and better)
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To: arderkrag

I donaed mine last time to the NRA will do so again.I also emailed my dem senator and thanked him for the donation.


8 posted on 01/20/2008 5:28:52 AM PST by TLEIBY308 (I AM PRO CHOICE,I BELEIVE EVERYONE SHOULD CARRY WHAT EVER GUN THEY CHOOSE)
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To: Kaslin
What the hell happened to Town Hall?

A supposedly conservative site arguing against giving us back some of our own money. Nice. Real nice.

I'm starting to look forward to the shellacking the Republican Party takes in the fall.

9 posted on 01/20/2008 5:32:29 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: TLEIBY308

I added mine to my GNMA acnt and thanked me


10 posted on 01/20/2008 5:33:46 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: 9YearLurker

Agree, tax cuts are better than rebates. Uncle Miltie’s income expectations theory explains why and every serious academic study has proved him right. So how about a cut in the payroll tax. That would put the money into the hands of those with a 100% propensity to spend. Now that would be a worthy stimulus plan right now.


11 posted on 01/20/2008 5:34:26 AM PST by trek
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To: trek

Hows that affect some one with out a pay check?


12 posted on 01/20/2008 5:35:55 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: t1b8zs

That was a good idea.Maybe if they double it I can use it to add a new gun to my collection and let my dem. senator know that.


13 posted on 01/20/2008 5:36:24 AM PST by TLEIBY308 (I AM PRO CHOICE,I BELEIVE EVERYONE SHOULD CARRY WHAT EVER GUN THEY CHOOSE)
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To: Kaslin

I agree something like this won’t do much. you wan’t real stimulus? cut taxes, regulations, kill all the lawyers. but I’ll still take the check. it’s my money and i want it back. only checks to people who don’t pay taxes are “handouts”. this guy’s got the demhole /libhole mentality that it’s the governments money


14 posted on 01/20/2008 5:37:22 AM PST by wny
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To: Perdogg
We need lower tax rates on income, capitals gains and dividends, lower individual tax rates and lower corporate tax rates. In fact, we need a single 15% rate on all income.

We need a three-step program to tax reform:

1. All members of Congress, all Congressional staffers, and anybody on the White House payroll has to file their own federal income tax. Not use Turbo Tax, not hire a consultant or H&R block; sit at the kitchen table with a pencil, stacks of tax information papers, a blank 1040, and the same instructions the IRS mails out to normal people.

2 Either change tax day to the first Tuesday in November, or change election day to April 15.

3. Implement term limits.

As far as specifics regarding what the tax code should look like, well, the only fair tax is the tax that taxes you and not me. The rest is details.

15 posted on 01/20/2008 5:40:07 AM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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"Hows that affect some one with out a pay check?"

It doesn't. But what's your point? The idea is to stimulate the economy and that by definition means adopting a program that impacts those participating in the economy.

16 posted on 01/20/2008 5:41:54 AM PST by trek
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To: Kaslin
It's not BS. It's a gimmick.


"Buy my snake oil. It cures all that ails ya."

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Cut entitlement programs and taxes.

17 posted on 01/20/2008 5:42:38 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: metesky
A supposedly conservative site arguing against giving us back some of our own money. Nice. Real nice.

If you haven't noticed, people here are arguing against it as well. And it's not the giving back of money we object to, it's that it won't do any good. It's a pointless effort.
18 posted on 01/20/2008 5:42:43 AM PST by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Kaslin

and tax cuts don’t work.

and the surge can’t work.

this is just a stop gap, we need this BUT MORE IMPORTANT we need PERMANENT TAX CUTS.


19 posted on 01/20/2008 5:44:09 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: metesky

“What the hell happened to Town Hall?”

Actually, I think that they are partially right. The rebate is a good, very short term, stimulus. A tax cut takes a little longer to have an effect, but does work better for the long haul.

Probably there will be a mix of both.


20 posted on 01/20/2008 5:46:16 AM PST by brooklin
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