Posted on 01/19/2008 5:58:50 PM PST by ImpBill
I have read a couple of sources that point out that only about a max of 40% of the colonists supported revolution, 10 to 20% remained loyal and 40 to 50% tried to remain neutral.
40% of today’s populace is conservative is the figure I’ve heard bandied about for years. Supposedly, 40% of today’s populace is liberal with the rest being neutral.
100% correct. Except.... We’ve been moving toward a direct democracy ever since. Radical changes in how we elect the pres., DIRECT election of senators, and most importantly, the wholesale rape, mutilation, murder, destruction, and denigration of the enumeration.
Look around. This is exactly where we're headed!
Poor argument. The only reason we are in trouble at all is because of liberal babyboomers.
One can question the messenger but it is folly to question the message.
This has a source and is basically the same observation.
"The Roman Republic fell, not because of the ambition of Caesar or Augustus, but because it had already long ceased to be in any real sense a republic at all. When the sturdy Roman plebeian, who lived by his own labor, who voted without reward according to his own convictions, and who with his fellows formed in war the terrible Roman legion, had been changed into an idle creature who craved nothing in life save the gratification of a thirst for vapid excitement, who was fed by the state, and who directly or indirectly sold his vote to the highest bidder, then the end of the Republic was at hand, and nothing could save it. The laws were the same as they had been, but the people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for nothing.
Teddy Roosevelt on the Fall of the Republic
The Maryland colony was founded by Catholics. The Calvert family was catholic, as were a number of the early gentry.
Eliminating most Catholics may not be appropriate, at least in that colony, where many signed an oath to the Soverign State of Maryland after the revolution, my ancestors among them.
There are similar readings in Plato’s Republic, where he talks about how democracy eventually defaults to tyranny soon after the citizens demand absolute freedom with no restrictions whatsoever. For present day examples of this think about the demand for pedophilia, necrophilia, and sex with animals to be legalized. We are just about there. I’m typing this while watching Bill Geist report at the Adult Movie Awards.
The founders' wisdom mandated that America be a Republic and they purposely avoided democracy. Perhaps that is why the word "democracy" is never mentioned in the Constitution.
How Long Does the USA have?
Facing a Romney vs Hillary election? Then I’d have to say that the limited central government designed and intended by our founders should just about be done within a decade.
I’m afraid the America is deep into the “apathy” stage and IF Hillary is elected we’ll transition quickly from apathy to dependence.
Once that happens China, Russia, and the Middle-East will ensure our collapse into bondage.
Hmmm...if the dollar really blows out hard.....the whole thing’ll come to a screeching halt faster than anybody here could imagine....
A simpler quote to the same end is this from Mark Twain: "Let me write a nation's customs, and I care not who writes its laws."
John / Billybob
Definitely prior to Viet Nam!
Sure wish I had checked the sources of the email out before I posted it. But I knew instantly upon reading it that the context was correct!
As Spengler said “...petty parliments do not last forever...”
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
The only effective weapon we presently have is our vote. It is one of the reasons that I have chosen to end my days of "voting for the lessor of two evils". Unfortunately I don't think enough citizens even know of this clause, much less care to look for ways to "alter or abolish" the shameful state our "two party" system has reached.
So we are back to square one in looking for remedies I surmise.
Preaching to the choir my friend. Not that it soothes my soul any!
Well I think you can find more than demographics to support the argument, but can’t take exception to what you posted.
Thank you!
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