“***He has, where he campaigned. We’ll just let the chips fall where they may.”
“***I’m disappointed in you because I gave plenty of factual support for my view and all you offered was, just your view.”
No, sorry, considering that Wyoming wasn’t even heavily contested, an EIGHT PERCENT result is pretty lousy.
“***OK, I understand where you’re coming from. But when both of us were in the socon trenches shooting at tootyfruityrudybots, is this where you wanted to be, defending an undemocratic process that favors your candidate who happened to originally sponsor the legislation (CFR)that spawned this outrage?”
Defending an undemocratic process? LOL! I’m not defending ANY process! I think the whole thing is royally screwed up! I think that candidates announcing two years before the election is screwed up! I think having the Iowa caucuses right after Christmas is screwed up! And New Hampshire five days later?? Heck, I don’t even think either Iowa or New Hampshire should be allowed anywhere NEAR the front of the line for their contests!
And let’s not even talk about “campaign finance reform” (which doesn’t seem to me to be the cause of two-year presidential election cycles, by the way).
But however much I’d enjoy complaining about how the system is set up, it is what it is.
And our candidates must exist, run, campaign, and WIN within it.
“***Everyone thinks their candidate is the best, and yet only one guy wins. Many have been surprised by various things in this race, like Tanc endorsing Romney, Obama beating Hildebeast in Iowa, Huckabee beating Romney in Iowa, George Bush not running for a third term, etc. At the end of this process, only one of these guys moves forward. The chances are that it won’t be Hunter and it won’t be Thompson.”
I agree. But at this point, I wouldn’t give any of the candidates as much as even odds. A realistic assessment of Mr. Thompson’s chances may tell us that he’s not as likely to get the nomination as Mr. Romney or Mr. Huckabee, but neither of them are even at 50% in my view. And I think it’s an order of magnitude or two more likely that Mr. Thompson will get the nomination than Mr. Hunter.
“How will that make you feel if he supports McCain, his friend from the senate? Is that what you were fighting in the trenches for?”
If he drops out, I’m not really sure that I care about whom he endorses. It won’t mean that much to me.
If Mr. Thompson drops out, I’M certainly not going to vote for Mr. McCain in the Maryland primary.
But I won’t vote for Mr. Hunter, either. Probably write myself in. The field is brutally unattractive this year, sans Mr. Thompson.
“***Basically, the Navy guys...”
Ah, okay. Gotcha. Not sure how that’s entirely applicable.
“***here, you’re going into the anecdotal stuff again, like a navy guy.”
I’ll take that as a compliment.
“***Nope. Hunter has him beat on specifics. At least for the issues that are on my radar.”
Well, perhaps different issues are important to us.
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Looks like we’re winding down this discussion.
But however much I’d enjoy complaining about how the system is set up, it is what it is. And our candidates must exist, run, campaign, and WIN within it.
***True enough. But this thing with evangelicals supporting Huckabee has the potential to disrupt all those great strategic plans. He has the capability to pull it off all the way through. When some republicans decided they should draft Fred, I get the impression it wasn’t because they were looking to appease the evangelical prolife faction within the party, and the stunt has backfired.
And I think it’s an order of magnitude or two more likely that Mr. Thompson will get the nomination than Mr. Hunter.
***Then you could make some money on Intrade if you honestly think that and it turns out to be correct. If it is an order of magnitude more likely, how is it that this guy from Arkansas is beating Fred in the polls? In order for Thompson to take down Huckabee he will need the evangelical prolife support. I’m talking SUPPORT, not just the vote. He doesn’t have it. If Hunter drops out, Thompson will most likely get my vote. But he doesn’t have my support.
But I won’t vote for Mr. Hunter, either. Probably write myself in. The field is brutally unattractive this year, sans Mr. Thompson.
***You’re the first Thompson supporter who I’ve run across who has said that he wouldn’t vote for Hunter. I guess you really do value centrism — like you said, perhaps different issues are important to us. Thanks for your honesty, it has led to a good discussion.