Rush Limbaugh. I listened to him on the radio Wednesday during the long drive between Hampton Roads and Richmond, Virginia...He has also coined a new "rush-ism", referring to the support for Governor Huckabee as "identity politics". His logic for this new term goes like this: The 'religious right" is made up of all evangelical Protestants. Huckabee was a Baptist minister. So, they will all identify with him. Apparently Rush sees conservative evangelical voters as lemmings of some sort who all group together. Well, he is wrong. Maybe they, like many others, are increasingly disillusioned with the coalition built around them which now fails to value what they even value the most.
Let he who has ears hear ...
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01/03/2008 8:38:17 PM PST by
11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
Apparently Rush sees conservative evangelical voters as lemmings of some sort who all group together. No, it is Huckabee who is narrowly branding himself as the "evangelical" candidate, and who is narrowly appealing to that specific segment and telling people to vote for him because he is a "Christian leader". He is the one makingdirty, disingenuous comments about Mormon beliefs, implying that people shouldn't vote for someone because of their Mormon beliefs. I am a traditional Christian believer (Catholic) who absolutely hates the constant demonization of Christians by liberals in this country, but this kind of narrow confessional politics just plays into liberals' hands. President Bush didn't go around telling people to vote for him because he is Christian. Shame on the Huckabee supporters in Iowa. If Huckabee wins the nomination, the Republicans will be creamed in the general election.
To: 11th_VA
The only way to believe that the president has powers over the womb is to buy into the liberal system that bought us the flawed Roe v Wade decision. I can never support a president who believes that.
As for the thought behind a constitutional amendment to change this, once again, a president has no power over this decision, it rests with Congress and the states. Since that /would/ give the Federal government purview over the womb, I’d say that’s a bad day for those who believe in the Constitution.
Get rid of the liberal interpretations of the Constitution, don’t get rid of the Constitution.
3 posted on
01/03/2008 8:51:13 PM PST by
kingu
(Fred08 - The Constitution is the value I'm voting for. What value are you voting for?)
To: 11th_VA
"Additionally, he has a growing base of populist supporters, showing himself to be not unlike Democratic candidate John Edwards."
That is my problem with him. He is a big government populist, not a conservative. With Huckabee at the helm the process of redefining conservatism so as to be compatible with big government would greatly accelerate. I have had enough of this with Bush and Hucakbee would be far worse. It is early and I am not going to get too excited by the Iowa results, but Huckabee is my least favorite choice among the GOP candidates.
5 posted on
01/03/2008 8:52:35 PM PST by
rob777
(Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
To: 11th_VA
He has also coined a new "rush-ism", referring to the support for Governor Huckabee as "identity politics". His logic for this new term goes like this: The 'religious right" is made up of all evangelical Protestants. Huckabee was a Baptist minister. So, they will all identify with him. According to Wikipedia, the term "identity politics" has been in use since the 1970s.
-PJ
6 posted on
01/03/2008 8:53:22 PM PST by
Political Junkie Too
(Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
To: 11th_VA
huck is a kook.
kook. fortunately most Republicans know this....
7 posted on
01/03/2008 8:54:54 PM PST by
Porterville
(Don't bug me about my grammar, you are not that great.)
To: 11th_VA
Sabato is the Robert Kent Gooch Professor of Politics of the Center for Politics at the University of at the University of Virginia. I watched him on weekend television. He certainly established himself as a talking head favorite, showing up everywhere these days in what has become an ever increasing sea of media punditry. So, when does Sabato appear on Hardball to say that heard Huckabee say the N-word?
-PJ
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01/03/2008 8:55:54 PM PST by
Political Junkie Too
(Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
To: 11th_VA
The Huckabee phenomenon marks the RISE of the NEW “religious right!” Let the Godless liberals beware!
9 posted on
01/03/2008 8:56:30 PM PST by
Tlaloc
To: 11th_VA
When have the religious right not gotten the candidate they wanted nominated?
Who and in what year?
What is the source of their disillusionment?
To: 11th_VA
When have the religious right not gotten the candidate they wanted nominated?
Who and in what year?
What is the source of their disillusionment?
To: 11th_VA
When have the religious right not gotten the candidate they wanted nominated?
Who and in what year?
What is the source of their disillusionment?
To: 11th_VA
I agree. This article is right on the money. Huckabee is not going away because he represents a wide swath of opinion among middle American voters. Committed to faith, life, family and biblical values, they are also compassionate and see government as a tool not a master. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
To: 11th_VA
So sad. These people ignore the fact that big government is what has killed those 60 million babies. Bigger government will just kill more.
21 posted on
01/03/2008 9:06:45 PM PST by
donna
(Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
To: 11th_VA
So sad. These people ignore the fact that big government is what has killed those 60 million babies. Bigger government will just kill more.
22 posted on
01/03/2008 9:07:27 PM PST by
donna
(Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
To: 11th_VA
The religious-left is the new religious-right? Sounds expensive.
25 posted on
01/03/2008 9:13:50 PM PST by
M203M4
(True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
To: 11th_VA
[The HUGE difference, among several, is that Huckabee hears the cry of the poorest of the poor, children in the first home of the whole human race, their mothers womb. Edwards has bought the Democratic frontrunners line of calling their intentional killing through procured abortion an exercise of freedom.]
To me, the writer is saying that the pro-life movement is finally reaching the groundswell the Christian-inspired, anti-slavery movement reached in the 1850’s. The Whigs fell apart over the slave issue and much of their base joined the new Republican party. The Republicans not only wouldn’t compromise but brought about abolition.
If I was an Iowan I wouldn’t have voted for Huckabee but this commentary helps me understand those who did.
31 posted on
01/03/2008 9:18:24 PM PST by
Brad from Tennessee
("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
To: 11th_VA
40 posted on
01/03/2008 9:22:56 PM PST by
unspun
(God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
To: 11th_VA
“I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ.” - Huckabee
If that represents his view, then I’m not interested and will vote otherwise in my primary. Maybe I could care less if he were to take this nation back for Zeus, Buddha, Mohammed or whatever floats his boat, problem that I find might be that these statements just sound like hot air and if he maybe into big government, forget about it. I’m pro life but I’m not a supporter for big government, return responsiblity back to the individuals that make up our republic, stop with this religious or political socialism. Maybe we don’t want to win in November, well Iowa maybe just one state there are still quite a few left to go, we’ll see how this strategy pans out.
To: 11th_VA
Exit polls prove Rush was right.
Sadly right.
This is bad news for the Republican party, that will enable the Democrats to win majorities and peg the GOP, with alas some justification, as a bunch of creationist boobs who will fall for the ol’ preacher-man routine over real credible candidates for President.
The ClusterHuck will mean the next Jimmy Carter - Obama - will be president.
48 posted on
01/03/2008 9:35:18 PM PST by
WOSG
To: 11th_VA
If Huckaboom wins the nomination, it won’t be because he is a evangelical, it will be because he communicates and connects with a larger portion of the electorate than the others. The “Christian” aspect of who he is as a candidate will only carry him so far.
To me he is Bill Clinton without all the personal baggage, with better skills and decision making faculties, shaded to the right, instead of the left.
To: 11th_VA
61 posted on
01/03/2008 9:56:43 PM PST by
spyone
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