Ads to target Huckabee (As he rises in polls, anti-tax group challenges record)

The State ^ | 12/28/2007 | WAYNE WASHINGTON

[coramdeo]

And you would expect some other politician to react differently to Club for Growth criticism?

Depends on what you mean. If you mean since the Club for Growth only criticizes politicians who have unacceptable liberal records, then no I don't expect Huckabee or any other liberal to respond differently. However, if they were to unfairly criticize a politician who had some record worth defending, I would expect to see some effort to defend the record.

[Kevmo]

Huckabee has surged because he won a couple of debates and he’s got evangelical support. If a quick rise can happen to the liberal pro-life evangelical Huckster, it can happen to the conservative pro-life evangelical Hunter.

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts

Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts

In this poll Hunter is up 3% and even with Paul and Thompson.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=3481ef60-8195-46a9-af04-b87b907bcfdd

[muawiyah]

Reading the Club for Growth site it looks like the way they rate votes is in terms of the Flake amendment. What that involves is an up or down vote on "projects".

Some "projects" are evil and are considered "pork". Other "projects" may not be evil, so they wouldn't be considered "pork".

Anyway, that's what the system sounds like.

So, WHO decides which projects are evil?

I'd like that job ~ make and break Conservative candidates all over the place.

So, can you 'splain their system a bit more thoroughly before I get suspicious about the TRUE MOTIVES of the guy's who select "projects".

[coramdeo]

The Club for Growth has a detailed whitepaper on why it is concerned about Huckabee. They have invited him to debate it, and he responds only with ad hominem attacks.

I don't know how to post hot links, but if you really want to understand better their opposition to Huckabee, the link is:

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/11/updated_huckabee_white_paper.php

[muawiyah]

Look, there's no doubt why they're down on Huckabee ~ Governor of a small state seeks to foster local economic growth through rationalization of tax system ~ AND ~ he's a former preacherman.

'nuff said.

Now, WHO or WHAT makes the judgment that one item in a budget authorization bill is an acceptable project and another item is pork?

That's what I was interested in ~ just who at CFG gets to play budget god?

[coramdeo]

OK, thanks for proving my point. No need to discuss Huckabee’s record when you can just throw mud at anyone who questions it.

[muawiyah]

You identified the source of your judgment regarding the man's fiscal history. I went to that source and discovered they use a "system" but they didn't quite come to grips with giving us a set of standards to judge "projects" and their aggregate utility.

That means someone in that organization is making arbitrary judgments about what projects are pork and what projects are sound use of the public's money.

All I ask you to provide me is the identity of the individual who makes those decisions.

Alternative you could show us the details of a system that can be used to REPEAT their selection process to come up with the same answers.

You now tell me that asking a question about how it all works is to smear the organization?

I didn't know I was dealing with the Church of Scientology

[coramdeo]

You obviously didn't read the white paper, which doesn't talk about a rating system or any of the stuff in your response, but does discuss a number of issues with 73 footnotes to supporting documentation. If you do decide to read it, you'll see that they say some nice things about Huckabee on some of the issues covered.

And no, I'm not a Mormon or a Scientologist, just a plain old evangelical Christian like Huckabee. I just don't find that reason enough to support him when I disagree with him on so many issues.