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I'm no Rudy supporter but this does no favors for the conservative movement as seen from the loony left wing comments from the Huffington Post below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/21/american-conservative-mag_n_77943.html

1 posted on 12/22/2007 9:18:24 AM PST by paltz
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To: paltz
My problem with Rudy's foreign policy is similar, in that he wants MORE of the "spreading Democracy abroad" schtick that is being promoted by the Podhoretz Crime Family.

Nevertheless, dressing him as a nazi is a little too much. Putting him in drag is more than enough.

2 posted on 12/22/2007 9:19:58 AM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: paltz
That's crazy.
3 posted on 12/22/2007 9:21:43 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: paltz
What specifically makes this fascist? Being gray? Having an armband? Being pressed?

I don’t see this ‘garb’ taking over private industry for the good of the people. I don’t see this ‘garb’ separating people and redistributing land and resources based on race or ethnic heritage. I don’t see this garb dictating all workers what they produce and to whom they distribute it to. I don’t see this garb seizing all media.

Sorry, but the word fascist is thrown around so much, I think people forgot what fascism really is.

4 posted on 12/22/2007 9:23:58 AM PST by mnehring (Ron Paul: 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'..)
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To: paltz
Giuliani’s tendency to conflate all terrorist groups
Right. What we need is a more NUANCED approach to terrorism.
5 posted on 12/22/2007 9:24:15 AM PST by samtheman (Huckabee. A Bible-Packing Leftist.)
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To: paltz
I didn't read the article yet, but I am familiar with The American Conservative. In this instance, are they saying that being a fascist or Nazi is a bad thing?
7 posted on 12/22/2007 9:28:13 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: paltz

Giuliani validates Cindy Sheehan on why we fight.


8 posted on 12/22/2007 9:28:48 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: paltz
I'm no Rudy supporter but this does no favors for the conservative movement as seen from the loony left wing comments from the Huffington Post below:

I agree. They may be impressing each other with how cute they are, but they will turn off the voting public.

10 posted on 12/22/2007 9:31:33 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: paltz

“I had forgotten that while U.S. attorney in New York, Giuliani tried to close the PLO’s New York office. As mayor, he made headlines in 1995, when he had Arafat ejected from a concert at Lincoln Center. “

I have steadfastly opposed Rudy, but the above comment made me rethink.


11 posted on 12/22/2007 9:40:51 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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Rudy is first and foremost a prosecutor who believes in a living document interpretation of ALL existing laws.

This was shown again and again in his tenure as mayor of NYC, from his obscene abuse of civil forfeiture laws on vehicles, abuse of zoning laws, abuse of arcane outdated cabaret laws, abuse of building inspector regulations to pressure targeted companies, and his attempt to abuse land use laws.

He has shown a consistent, long term, well stated, self affirmed, firmly held belief that 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment Rights are negotiable privileges owned by the state power that is controlled by him, and all means to the end of Guiliani accomplishing the goals of the state that Guiliani deems appropriate can and will be attempted.

There is a clear line of reasoning regarding Guiliani’s record of abusing zoning and land use, civil forfeiture law, his overall beliefs in state controlled urban land management, and his campaign spiel to label him a statist. Is he a fascist? I don’t think he cares about industry as long as the industry pays their taxes so he can push his agenda.


13 posted on 12/22/2007 9:48:26 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: paltz

[cue Mike Myers as Linda Richman]

“The American Conservative Magazine is neither American nor conservative. Discuss.”


14 posted on 12/22/2007 9:51:32 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: paltz
Boo hoo! Rudi is a mean man. Rudi scolded me in public.

crybaby

What a pathetic cry for attention.


16 posted on 12/22/2007 10:14:31 AM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: paltz

This guy is part of the “rabid” anti-war far-right apparently.

There’s another loon at San Diego State (IIRC)...

They are convinced that because *a small part* of neocon philosophy derived from Trotsky they are all commies.

They then combine this with the Bush is a Nazi swill in order to take an even more radical position.

They align themselves with antiwar.com and that jackass Justin Raimondo, Indymedia, along with nutters like Alex Jones.


20 posted on 12/22/2007 10:32:56 AM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: paltz

American Conservative is a relatively obscure mag that represents “paleoconservative” views and hates “neocons.”


21 posted on 12/22/2007 10:50:20 AM PST by Doodle
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To: paltz

“Had I been more attentive over the years, I might have been less surprised by the mayor’s hard-line neoconservative stance. I had forgotten that while U.S. attorney in New York, Giuliani tried to close the PLO’s New York office. As mayor, he made headlines in 1995, when he had Arafat ejected from a concert at Lincoln Center. In a speech to the Republican Jewish Coalition this fall, Rudy pointed to this incident as emblematic of his leadership style: “I didn’t hesitate, like Hillary Clinton hesitates to answer questions on what she’s going to do about Iran. I didn’t seek to negotiate with him, like Barack Obama would do or says he’d do with these people. I didn’t call for a team of lawyers to help me. ... I just made a decision. See, I lead. That’s what [being a] leader is about.”

THIS is what a “conservative” magazine is bashing Giuliani for?! Giuliani should be more like Hillary or Obama — is that the conservative message?!


24 posted on 12/22/2007 11:34:53 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: paltz

The author, Michael C. Desch, is a terrorist apologist.

Read his other opinions.

Here is one:

“Indeed, on the eve of the 2000 Camp David talks, the Palestinians had legitimate grounds to be disillusioned with the Oslo process. Israel had spent much of the previous seven years pursuing peace with Jordan and Syria rather than working consistently with the Palestinians. While pushing Arafat to come to Camp David to reach a final settlement, Barak simultaneously backed away from Israel’s obligations to undertake a third redeployment of Israeli forces in the Occupied Territories, transfer three Arab villages bordering Jerusalem to Palestinian control, and release a significant number of Palestinian prisoners. From the Palestinians’ point of view, Barak’s willingness to withdraw from Lebanon and unwillingness to fulfill Israel’s obligations to them was indicative of Israel’s shaky commitment to a fair, lasting peace. “

http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/review.html


25 posted on 12/22/2007 11:41:02 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: paltz

I just realized (from reading another article) that “The American Conservative” is PAT BUCHANAN’s publication. As we all know, he is against the Wot, the war on Iraq, and thinks we should sit in “Fortress America”.

“Scott McConnell founded The American Conservative with Pat Buchanan and Taki Theodoracopulos in 2002.”

http://www.amconmag.com/aboutus.html


26 posted on 12/22/2007 11:47:24 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: paltz
Further comments at Media Research Center's News Buster's Forum:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2007/12/20/american-conservative-adolf-giuliani

27 posted on 12/22/2007 12:58:39 PM PST by paltz
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To: paltz

Desch is a member of the Saudi Lobby, having his professorship funded by former members of ARAMCO.


32 posted on 01/21/2008 11:41:37 PM PST by rmlew (Huckabee flip flops so much it makes Romney cringe)
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