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Surveillance Society: New High-Tech Cameras Are Watching You
Popular Mechanics ^ | January 2008 Issue | James Vlahos

Posted on 12/21/2007 6:03:26 PM PST by BGHater

Edited on 12/21/2007 6:31:46 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: Savage Beast

>You’ve got my number all right, Alex. You overlooked paranoid.
[...]
I thought of telling him that the bottle was empty and that I wanted it for a souvenir—so I wasn’t lacking in imagination—but I was so surprised and freaked out that I did loose my audacity—and, frankly, I prefer honesty, for my own personal purposes, if it is at all possible.

I’m not sure what civil courage is. What is it?

But don’t worry about having me on your side when the bullets start flying. I have plenty of courage when my back’s to the wall. It’s when there’s wiggleroom that I tend to be circumspect, and that’s most of the time. When there’s no wiggleroom or room for circumspection—all the paranoia and anxiety vanish, and I fight like a Spartan. Don’t worry. I won’t let you down.<<

Hi, Savage Beast!

Sorry if my reply came off as flippant, snide, or combative. You seem like you’re “all right.” (I find that I occasionally adapt the overly prosecutorial writing style of some FREE REPUBLIC posters, whereas a friendlier, conciliatory tone might be more appropriate.)

Actually, it all boils down to civil courage (the courage to stand up and defend your rights when they are being trodden upon). As the Germans say: “Wehret den Anfängen!” (”Combat the beginnings!”) Or as Shakespeare said: “To fear the worst oft cures the worse.” I believe that the most-often used metaphor here at this site is the one concerning the frog in the pot of water being slooowly brought to a boil.

Don’t wait until the rats have overrun your house to defend yourself. The time to start taking action is when you first discover a few mice droppings in the garage. At the end of your encounter with that Maître d’, HE is the one who should have been muttering to himself that he was freaked out. HE is the one who should have regretted bothering you. HE is the one who should have gone home wondering whether he was going to hear from your lawyer the next day. He was the one who should have felt slightly humiliated, vaguely threatened, and unsure of himself. Did you ask for HIS name? Did you write it down - while he was watching? Did you ask for the name of the manager? The name of the company which installed the surveillance cameras? The name of the restaurant’s attorneys?

Don’t get me wrong! You should have been smiling (haughtily) at him the whole time, rubbing your hands together gleefully while you asked your wife whether her brother - you know, the Beverly Hills lawyer - could handle another million-dollar civil-action suit. You should have posed the aforementioned questions in a matter-of-fact tone, as though you routinely ask them and were, frankly, getting bored dealing with such incompetents.

You should have asked ten good friends to telephone that restaurant over the next couple of weeks, inquire about their rates for weddings, banquet rooms, retirement parties, etc., and then - as an after-thought - have them ask innnocently whether it was true that they have surveillance cameras, and then have them regretfully cancel their dining plans.


121 posted on 12/23/2007 3:35:53 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: CodeToad
Kind of worrisome that they could also define the parameters to find right wing gun nuts and take them out.


122 posted on 12/23/2007 6:11:37 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: cva66snipe
Hey Joe you were driving reckless yesterday your left front tire touched the yellow line on the interstate. We also noticed you were smoking inside your car as well. Please mail in a mandatory $250 fine. Hey Joe you screwed in an illegal 100 watt incandescent bulb in your living room didn't you. Our camera saw you. Please mail in your fine or pay a $125 fee to contest this in court.

Close. There will be no "please". Big Brother will tap directly into your bank account for his fines.

123 posted on 12/23/2007 6:21:20 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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To: alexander_busek
You make good points, Alex. And you're right: the time to take on the enemy is at the very beginning; that's when it's easiest. But the truth is, it was getting late; I was in unfamiliar territory; and the realization that Big Brother had been videorecording my wife and me all evening sent me into some confusion. I started to say inflamed my paranoia; however, paranoia is paranoia only it it's delusional, and the most frightening thing about this is that it was reality.

I generally don't go to the mat with someone unless (1) winning is a certainty, and/or (2) my cause is worth it, and/or (3) my back's to the wall and there's no real choice.

When I have gone to the mat, I have always emerged victorious.

In this situation, I was taken by surprise, caught off balance, and flustered, and it didn't seem that any of these applied. You have made a good case for #2.

However, I have brought this event before the Free Republic as an example of the way surveillance can alter our lives in a bad way.

I wondered how many times I have been caught on camera and not even known about it.

Many years ago--when I was younger and more naive--I remember making the statement: "I'm not doing anything wrong. If government agents want to come into my home anytime and look for illegal drugs, it's alright with me."

I have learned a lot since then. At that time, the potential for abuse BY government was unknown to me.

It had not occurred to me that government itself was the greatest threat to me, my family, our freedom, and our inalienable rights.

It had not occurred to me that tyrants, sociopaths, any anyone else who would desire to threaten me, my family, our freedom, and our inalienable rights--and that such people are countless and ubiquitous--would find government to be their most effective and easily available vehicle for doing exactly that.

Such people love draconian laws--and large numbers of laws that can be enforced selectively.

Today I am older and wiser.

Those who are inclined to increase the size, reach, appetite, and power of government are naive, ignorant, stupid, or malevolent.

Government is a necessary evil--necessary of course, but also evil. It enforces its authority by violence and threat of violence, and its size, reach, appetite, and power--and consequence its evil--are self-accelerating.

Though it is necessary, the only way to minimize the evil of government, its violence, and its threat of violence is to minimize its size.

Ubiquitous surveillance is a handy tool for those who intend to increase the size, reach, appetite, and power of government--and its tyrrany and evil.

The event I described came as a shock to me. When it happened, all these considerations came crashing down in the sudden revelation of some very unpleasant truths.

I didn't act--and you have argued rather well that I should have.

However, I did emerge with a new understanding of the potential threat of government and surveillance--and a renewed concern about them--and I have placed this before the Free Republic forum, which is one of the best groups of intelligent, enlightenened, and benevolent people in existence here in the Information Age and in today's dangerous world.

124 posted on 12/23/2007 8:44:41 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: dljordan

There’s always a remedy. Remember, the people who use these systems aren’t rocket scientists. There are always tech nerds out there looking for ways to hose high-tech stuff.

There will be no difference between hackers and other monkeywrenchers. We do not live in a culture that would shoot out the cameras, we once did but do not any longer.


125 posted on 12/23/2007 8:50:55 AM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the heads up! It just amazes me that there are evil men and women who think that they have the right to destroy America/Americans to pad their bank accounts. It's past time for a hanging or 500. LOL

Merry Christmas to you and yours! Is Santa going to bring you a new gun? ;o)

126 posted on 12/23/2007 3:47:09 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Travis McGee
ARISSA
It's not like a Federation world, where everything is handed to you.

From the DS9 episode, "A Simple Investigation."

127 posted on 12/23/2007 5:30:17 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: Clint Williams

Yep.


128 posted on 12/26/2007 5:52:01 AM PST by Badeye (The two “no” votes were cast by Ron Paul and leftwing nut Dennis Kucinich.)
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