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Romney Would Allow Illegals to Stay for Unspecified Time
CNS News ^ | December 21, 2007 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 12/21/2007 8:18:22 AM PST by Ol' Sparky

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To: Reaganesque

They are optimists. Yes, Romney might do what he promised them. But I prefer people whose track record gives you better than a hope they will do what they promise.


41 posted on 12/21/2007 8:46:03 AM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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To: Reaganesque

I think that a lot of prominent conservatives are going Romney because of his looks and his voice. He looks and sounds better than any of them. But Fred Thompson would be a better choice to lead this country.


42 posted on 12/21/2007 8:47:45 AM PST by Yaelle (FRED, the most intelligent choice)
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To: DoughtyOne

Do I see a trend here?

Romney N.E.

Hillary N.E./South

Clinton South

Carter South

Paul South

Rudy N.E.

Bush 1 N.E./South

Bush 2 N.E./South

Obama N.E.

Thompson South

Huckabee South

How come all our presidents and top tier candidates are from the South or the North East? Who decided that? We out here in fly over country are getting tired of politicians from the South and N.E. deciding what happens in our homes. Most of them have never been here. Maybe that’s why Reagan ‘got it’. We’ve had a long stretch of no representation. I want my turn.

Reagan California West.............Why don’t we try that again?

DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!!!! IT’S ABOUT TIME!


43 posted on 12/21/2007 8:50:04 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Greg F
It's all laid out here, be sure to take a look.
44 posted on 12/21/2007 8:51:06 AM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: AuntB

I’m all for it. You win... ;-)


45 posted on 12/21/2007 8:51:36 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a Republican presidential candidate, would allow illegal aliens to apply for permanent residency but would also require them to go back home after a "set period" of time, he said on NBC's "Meet the Press" last Sunday.

This doesn't sound like anything Tancredo would side with. Maybe we'll hear a retraction of his endorsement.
46 posted on 12/21/2007 8:52:21 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: Badeye
The fact Romney convinced Tancredo speaks volumes to me on this issue.

Unfortunately for him, Romney didn't convince Tancredo's Iowa statewide campaign chairman - which is actually a much more salient endorsement, since this man is a big-shot in Iowa conservative circles. Tancredo himself, well, his endorsement of a pro-illegal candidate doesn't seem to be doing much to convince conservative voters for whom II is a big, big issue.

47 posted on 12/21/2007 8:52:32 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Hi, My name is Mitt, and I invented the fifty dollar abortion!")
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To: AuntB
California West

Talk to us after you've replaced "The Governator" and the two harpy Senators you keep sending back to DC.

48 posted on 12/21/2007 8:53:42 AM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: Greg F

That sounds pretty conservative.

(Huck must’ve had someone else write it for him.)


49 posted on 12/21/2007 8:54:12 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: Greg F
Propose to provide all illegal immigrants a 120-day window to register with the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services and leave the country. Those who register and return to their home country will face no penalty if they later apply to immigrate or visit; those who do not return home will be, when caught, barred from future reentry for a period of 10 years.

Can anyone explain the point about registering? If an illegal is caught here and has registered, what's the difference?
50 posted on 12/21/2007 8:55:44 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

I think he’s saying all illegals must register in 120 days or face no possibility of legal entry for 10 years.


51 posted on 12/21/2007 8:58:30 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
How does he know they went home? Because they said so? Because they came up with easily forged documents?
52 posted on 12/21/2007 9:00:12 AM PST by bilhosty
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To: lesser_satan

I did. Everytime I see others characterize him, Huckabee looks bad. When Huckabee speaks for himself I am in agreement by and large. I read his Foreign Affairs piece on the website and it made good sense to me; meanwhile the American Spectator article treated it as if it were uninformed gibberish.


53 posted on 12/21/2007 9:00:18 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Badeye
"The fact Romney convinced Tancredo speaks volumes to me on this issue.

Exactly. It demonstrates, given Romney's endless lying,
that the Mythster is 'believable' consistent with his possible sociopathic behavior.

One hypothesis (calling Dr. Krauthammer, please pick up the white courtesy phone)
is that he may relish control by political domination.
Like sexual sociopaths, Myth is believable (eg. Tancredo signing off to him)
and by controlling and dominating his political flock,
in his own mind, Mitt "attains spirituality".

cf. for example, The Impressions of a Man

54 posted on 12/21/2007 9:00:33 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: kevkrom

“Talk to us after you’ve replaced “The Governator” and the two harpy Senators you keep sending back to DC.”

Right! Like any state is doing any better? and “you’ didn’t put Arnie in. It was typical Rino/Bush supporters, kinda like you.


55 posted on 12/21/2007 9:02:06 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: tompster76
"Well, Thompson is supporting “aspirations of citizensip for illegals”."

Repeating a lie over & over doesn't make it true, tompster

56 posted on 12/21/2007 9:02:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: AuntB
It was typical Rino/Bush supporters, kinda like you.

Wow... now I'm a RINO. Nothing like resorting to ad hominem attacks there.

My point still stands -- if you want California to be treated as a Reagan conservative state again, then work harder to get rid of the liberals (from both parties) who run and represent your state. I certainly don't ask for folks to treat Maryland as any sort of conservative bastion, that would be crazy.

Meanwhile, when Arnold was getting the governorship, who was your man Hunter backing? Conservative state senator Tom McClintock? Nope, sorry. He was backing Rick Riordan, liberal republican LA mayor.

Clean your own house before you come tell us how messy ours is.

57 posted on 12/21/2007 9:07:48 AM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: Greg F

I’m still confused.

So if they register in 120 days and leave - they can enter again within 10 years.

If they don’t register and leave - we’d never know it....

If they don’t register and are caught here, then they can’t come back for 10 years.

And if they do register and are caught here, then they can’t come back for 10 years?

The last two scenarios don’t make sense to me. The registration process doesn’t seem to accomplish anything. Unless I’m missing something.


58 posted on 12/21/2007 9:08:26 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: Greg F

“3. Prevent Amnesty
Policies that promote or tolerate amnesty will be rejected.
Propose to provide all illegal immigrants a 120-day window to register with the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services and leave the country. Those who register and return to their home country will face no penalty if they later apply to immigrate or visit; those who do not return home will be, when caught, barred from future reentry for a period of 10 years.”

I don’t trust the text of his ‘Prevent Amnesty’ titled paragraph. The only people for whom this registration thing is a carrot are those who have been charged with a crime or an immigration violation - they get to apply for reentry in the future without the mark against them they currently have. Those who have never been caught have nothing to gain by registering, they can simply leave without doing paperwork as it offers no advantage over not coming to our attention in the first place. Smells like there is a trick in here somewhere.


59 posted on 12/21/2007 9:10:16 AM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (If someone is 'turning his life around' you best stay away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney's lies are accelerating.

MORE MYTH from MYTH ROMNEY

"Mitt Romney went a step further in a 1978 interview with the Boston Herald.
Talking about the Mormon Church and racial discrimination, he said:
"My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit."
"Yesterday (12/20/07), Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom acknowledged that was not true.
"Mitt Romney did not march with Martin Luther King,"
he said in an e-mail statement to the Globe.

If the GOP has Romney anywhere near the ticket, the GOP is finished.

60 posted on 12/21/2007 9:11:35 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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