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To: robertpaulsen
And somehow the phrase "to keep and bear arms" has been twisted into the modern meaning of "keep with" and "carry" instead of "maintain and take into battle".

Sorry, don't mean to be rude, but, do you really believe that or are you just being an ass because you're arguing? The original words in the second amendment "keep" and "bear" have fallen into dis-use, the normally used present day words that mean the SAME thing would be "own" and "carry" (specifically to "carry with you"). To take into battle was the stated benefit of protecting the right to "Keep and bear", or if you prefer, "Own and Carry with you", it was never intended to be added to the "keep and bear" part of the amendment.

41 posted on 12/13/2007 5:59:35 AM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: logic
"the normally used present day words that mean the SAME thing would be "own" and "carry" (specifically to "carry with you")."

Now, now. You're just making that up. Admit it.

In 1791, "to keep" meant to upkeep -- to maintain in good working order. To have a functioning firearm ready for use.

In 1791, "to bear arms" had a distinct military connotation. An individual would bear arms to battle, not bear arms to go hunting.

I do agree, however, that the normally used present day words would be "own" and "carry". But they do not mean the same thing.

54 posted on 12/13/2007 7:24:57 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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