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Well, I’m not totally sure how much this really means in the long run.

I own a 97 ram and a 05 ram. My complaint with dodge is they made the engines so small now that they still get horrible gas mileage, but dont have enough power to get out of their own way. My 97 had a 360 (5.9L) (its a 408 stroker now) and got 15 mpg from the factory and has pretty good pulling/hauling power. The 05 weighs over 1000 lbs more but only has a 4.7L. While it can get 16.5 mpg unloaded, if you put anything behind it (I mean a tiny trailer like you’d haul a lawnmower on) the mileage can drop to 10 or 11. I can pull trailers, boats and things like that with my truck (even have skidded trees down paths in the woods) but its a joke with my wifes 05.

Now I know a 318 would be a more fair comparison to the 4.7L, but I expect it would beat the pants off the 4.7 as well. What I find crazy about all this is that Nissan trucks are now coming with 5.6L v-8s and obviously can out do the dodges.

If our auto manufactorers were smart they would make two lines of pickups. Trucks for people who really just want to commute but not work with them and then trucks for people who actually want to farm with them. Ford could just break out the design for the early 90s F-150 (and probably should get out the early 90s 5.0 Mustang while they are in there). Chevy should do the same for the 1500 and dodge for the older style ram. Those trucks were made to work without all the froo froo crap that gets broken on new trucks. My 97 is a joke of a truck compared to the 90 Ram my dad owned. But the 05 is even less truck then that. I mean, they tried to replace the Jeep cherokee with the in line 6 with this liberty thing? Uuuhhhhhhhhh

Jeep doesnt even make the 4.0 in line 6 any more and ford quit making the 302/5.0. It makes me depressed just thinking about it. Both were more reliable then anything that replaced them will be and you got your moneys worth.

. It makes me depressed just thinking about it. Both were more reliable then anything that replaced them will be and you got your moneys worth.
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I am an old Ford man (my dad had a Model A when I was born), I liked the 302 but the 4.6 liter seems to be a worthy replacement to me. I now own a ‘95 F-150 with a 351 but I would put a 4.6 in it if it could be done at a reasonable cost. We now have an ‘04 Grand Marquis which is our third car with the 4.6 engine and the worst experience was with one unit that had the infamous plastic intake manifold that split but otherwise they have been good engines.

Speaking of cars, I keep seeing a commercial on TV which bugs the heck out of me. It’s for the Ford Hybrid Escape. The young girl tells her dad t0 drop her off a block away from her friends because they all drive hybrids. The camera then pans to the rear of the Escape and clearly shows that “Hybrid” is written on the rear of the vehicle.

The dad explains to the girl that their car is a hybrid. The girl askes why he never mentioned theat before. The dad responds “because I didn’t think I had to”. What they should of had the dad continue to say was “... because I thought at your age you could read.”

This is just another reason that I can add to my list of why I never have or never will buy a Ford.