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RUDY-RIPPING THOMPSON TRASHES APPLE (Giuliani's gun-grabbing misfires with voters)
NY POST ^ | November 24, 2007 | GEOFF EARLE, Post Correspondent, Post Wire Services

Posted on 11/24/2007 4:13:28 AM PST by Liz

Fred Thompson ....campaigning at a NH gun store..... told reporters Giuliani too often turns to his time as NYC mayor to explain his support for stronger gun restrictions. "....he was at bill-signing ceremonies with NY Sen Chuck Schumer and President Clinton and others for gun-control legislation over the years. Of course, he's not as outspoken about it any more."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; fredthompson; liberalrudy; nh2008; rinogiuliani; rinorudy
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To: FatherofFive

FatherofFive wrote: “Rudy is the best guy to deal with the greatest threat to our civilization as we know it.”

Please explain how Rudy is better qualified than any other GOP presidential candidate (except Cut-and-Run Ron) to deal with the threat of Islamofacism.

[Sound of crickets chirping...]


41 posted on 11/24/2007 7:59:07 AM PST by Josh Painter ("Managers are people who leaders hire." - Fred Thompson)
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To: FatherofFive
Rudy is the best guy to deal with the greatest threat to our civilization as we know it. Unless we defeat Islam, nothing else matters!

The positioning of Rudy as the mayor of the city of the event, (which was pure happenstance) and his administrative actions thereafter in support of the recovery does not translate into any sort of competence either locally or nationally in dealing with causation. Show me a track record prior to the September 11th attacks that indicates the problem of radical Islam was an issue in any way for hizzoner the Mayor.

42 posted on 11/24/2007 8:03:29 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: kittymyrib
the msm is keeping him out of the news

Check out his interview with Incurious George Steponallofus on This Week last Sunday and, IMHO, he knocks it out of the park.

And make sure to watch him with on Fox News Sunday this week. 

Fred's making the rounds and is the only candidate who actually talks about the issues with specifics, not sound bites. 

43 posted on 11/24/2007 8:05:49 AM PST by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: wtc911

He marched WITH NAMBLA in the “Gay Pride Parades”. If he actually had ANY character at all, he would have refused to be involved in an event that glamorizes child molesters.


44 posted on 11/24/2007 8:07:19 AM PST by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: zeebee
I see you spewing out insult after insult at other Freepers.
I see that you have no problem taking liberties with the truth. No wonder it's so easy for you to support RINO Rudy.

I notice that you badmouth FRed Thompson, a REAL conservative, regularly. Gonna vote for him if he's the nominee? Or will you do what you accuse FRed Thompson of and pick your nose and think about it for a while? [The link is to one of zeebee's earlier insult of Thompson.]

45 posted on 11/24/2007 8:14:05 AM PST by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: FatherofFive
He's tough and he won't back down to the terrorists.

This isn't enough. In a constitutional republic, we must elect citizens who have proven they are men or women of integrity and solid moral values. Personal character is the foundation of each individual. It is the clue to what they will do in any situation. It is based on a clear choice of moral good in all one does.

While I may be able to buy into the "Rudy, the savior of New York," I cannot vote for one who has lived a life so filled with selfishness, hubris and such disregard for those he has vowed to love and protect.

46 posted on 11/24/2007 8:16:11 AM PST by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan. Pray the Rosary)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Agree with your FOX observations. I too started with FOX on the big dish. Through these years they have gone the Weather Channel way as Rush calls it “Chick-a-fication” and run to the left. Absolutely amazing!

Even until this week I thought Brit was the last bastion, but with his FRED is dead show, I am done. Might as well tune in the Clintoon News Net at least they ain’t trying to fool us by pretending.


47 posted on 11/24/2007 8:29:13 AM PST by dusttoyou (FredHead from the git go)
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To: ExSoldier; Josh Painter; stockstrader
Rudy is the best guy to deal with the greatest threat to our civilization as we know it. Unless we defeat Islam, nothing else matters

I lived in NYC in the pre-Rudy days. While still a great city, crime was a challenge to a quality of life. Rudy as mayor addressed the root cause of the crime problem – criminals. He was aggressive in getting ‘petty’ criminals off the streets – the squigee guys, the subway fare jumpers. These ‘petty’ criminals committed many more crimes as well. NYC became a really great place to be. Look at Times square.

Rudy understands root cause. It wasn’t easy making change in NYC, which is larger than most states and many countries. He is a leader. I met him years ago at a management function in New Orleans. He was the keynote speaker. I was able to spend some time with him, and I know he understands the root cause of the Islamic terrorism.

There are no other choices – Fred has never run anything, I don’t trust Mitt (he says he never had an argument with his wife. I find that impossible to believe unless he has absolutely no backbone or is a liar) Ron Paul is a whack job and I don’t think Huckabee can win.

Rudy understands root cause, is a leader, and can get things done.

IMHO.

48 posted on 11/24/2007 8:30:54 AM PST by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: MSSC6644
on a clear choice of moral good in all one does

So you wouldn't have voted for Reagan because he was divorced and spent the rest of his life living in a state of adultery with Nancy. Even the pope has a confessor.

Until Jesus returns, we will have to settle for lesser men as our leaders. Rudy is a leader.

49 posted on 11/24/2007 8:45:27 AM PST by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: Comparative Advantage

>>>>Most of us can’t stand NYC anyway...

Why?


50 posted on 11/24/2007 8:51:07 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: FatherofFive
Rudy understands root cause, is a leader, and can get things done.

Yes, he sues gun manufacturerers and actively campaigns for gun control, he marches in gay pride parades that also include NAMBLA members, he actively supports sancturary cites and opend borders, and actively promotes so called abortions rights. Yeah he gets things done and most often they are the WRONG things. Rudy is NOT the only one that can fight the war on terror but he IS the most liberal of the candidates. Only liberals can justify supporting Rudy, conservatives would be complete fools to do so.

51 posted on 11/24/2007 8:56:05 AM PST by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: Politicalmom

And the NAMBLA members he hired to high city offices were.....?


52 posted on 11/24/2007 8:56:46 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Calpernia
>>>>Most of us can’t stand NYC anyway...

Why?

_______________________________________________

Because it's easy and requires no thought.

53 posted on 11/24/2007 8:57:45 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Calpernia
Why?

In my opinion it's a wonderful city with a great history but it's nannyism has gotten out of hand. Too many liberal politicians whose only goal in life seems to be figuring out ways they can control the lives of everybody.

54 posted on 11/24/2007 9:02:26 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: kindred

he marched with nambla? Can you show me that...


55 posted on 11/24/2007 9:02:51 AM PST by fabian
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To: FatherofFive
Rudy understands root cause, is a leader, and can get things done.

Rudy understood that the root cause of crime is guns and he dedicated everything he had to that single issue and built everything else around that central thrust. He would say it is in integral cog of the entire machine and I wouldn't necessarily dispute that, but his actions in the deliberate contravention of the US Constitution and deliberate undermining thereof makes him totally unfit to lead the nation. He can't win the south and without the south he can't win.

As for Fred not having run anything, if the Presidency were a one man job that operated in a vacuum then I might agree, but the head guy need only make the tough decisions while his many expert advisors will present the facts and offer a variety of possible solutions. The boss also has to have the common sense to cobble together a solution from an assortment of proposals. I think Fred can DO that.

I also think that Huckabee can do that and maybe better than Fred. Unelectable? What if Huckabee kicks Rudy's A$$ in Iowa? What if he then smokes everybody in SC? Everything is fluid right now. All it will take is one or two major wins to provide a breakout opportunity and serious traction which will bring the national recognition and the all important money.

56 posted on 11/24/2007 9:02:59 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: wtc911
Anyone that posts something like that, I will assume never had the experience of hoping a train into the city for a show or concert and then taking a carriage ride through the park.
57 posted on 11/24/2007 9:03:41 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

I absolutely agree about the nannyism and liberal politicians. It is ruining all of our states but is currently magnified on the coast states.


58 posted on 11/24/2007 9:04:39 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Comparative Advantage; kindred
A LOOK AT RUDY'S RADICAL PAST IS A GLIMPSE INTO THE FUTURE


One of gay couple Rooty moved in with after dumping his wife
and kids to be with his mistress.

----- Russell Harding, Mayor Rudy's appointee to the New York City Housing Development Corporation went ontrips with gay friends on the taxpayers' dime, emjoyed child poen on city computers, stole the city blind-----received a 5-year prison sentence for child porn; graft, etc. Russel's daddy was the president of the NY Liberal Party that endorsed Rooty as Mayor at Rooty's request.)

----- Giuliani Has Connection With Accused Priest
Worcester Telegram ^ | 7/22/07 | Shaun Sutner
Posted on 07/22/2007 3:08:25 PM PDT by hardback

Republican presidential candidate Rudolph W. Giuliani has close ties to a Catholic priest accused of sexually molesting boys and who also was the lawyer for a now-closed Whitinsville counseling house for troubled priests that has been described as the center of a pedophile sex ring. Monsignor Alan J. Placa, who works for Mr. Giuliani’s consulting firm, Giuliani Partners, was legal adviser in the 1980s to the House of Affirmation, where priests accused of sexual abuse were sent for psychotherapy and other counseling services. The center closed in 1987 amid a financial scandal.

59 posted on 11/24/2007 9:05:14 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: fabian
Review this thread.
60 posted on 11/24/2007 9:05:16 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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